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From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.421 in reply to 324689.414
Date: 3/13/2025 10:17:25 PM
Wagner College
II.2
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216216

As we know, planning is crucial. I have plans for many possibilities, but it is the things that I haven't thought to think about as a HG team that will be challenging.

Drafting has taken on a whole new meaning for me. I have played for a combined 53 seasons in BB and I have never thought about the draft in terms of longevity before. Yes, I have drafted and trained U21 NT players, but I've never had to think about rotating through the seasons drafting. Ie. invest in maximum draft points and draft maybe every second season. In the meantime, thinking seriously about what to train and when while keeping in mind the type of draftees I will need next.

For example, I focused more on guard skills with my trainees this season with the focus on getting 3 bigs in the upcoming draft and training big skills next season. But it wasn't that simple. I had to start looking more closely at my current trainees and thinking about what their final builds will look like taking into account the draftees coming in next season...and then 2 seasons after that! I've been using Buzzer Manager to map out TSP caps and potential builds. It's been fun and I am engaged in BB in a way I haven't been before.

This is HG.

I seriously tried to cut some parts of your message in order to make reply shorter (I would almost always want to quote when replying, but then messages tend to become so long, as I don't have the special skill of writing short messages;), but cutting any part of it would be a disservice to it, as it really gives a good overview/example in a short package what kind of thought patterns you might have to go through in your attempts to optimize everything as a HG.

It's also a good reminder that person can learn new things fast and relatively easy, if they find it inspiring. (For me making such observations for the first time was really inspirational aha-moment, and it kind of reminded me on some more complex board games, where looks can be deceiving - sometimes game looking relatively simple can have enormous amount of strategical depth and difficulty built in it). I'm not trying to say process for new to it will be easy, I'm just saying it will be worthwhile. And sometimes that's exactly what we need, instead of easy. The feeling of achieving something beautiful. That is also at the core of HG mentality in my opinion. :)

Couple of sentences stroke to me most in your post.
"Drafting has taken on a whole new meaning for me", "But it wasn't that simple." and especially the last one; "It's been fun and I am engaged in BB in a way I haven't been before."
Exactly my experience (apart from playing partly also due to some sentimental reasons), as the HG mentality has got me in it's hook big time and I can confirm is totally engaging especially compared to typical - for me nowadays lame and boring - play style, where you just buy yourself some success. (Yes, unfortunately I have purchases in my team history, but those days are long gone).

So excellent post, I'd like to read more of these so please share your thoughts and experiences, ups and downs and challenges (of which you likely are able to turn into something positive) that you face down the road!

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.422 in reply to 324689.416
Date: 3/13/2025 10:32:29 PM
Wagner College
II.2
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So a while ago I replied to demars' message, and in it asked from you MrJ this, it's likely you didn't read it/missed it. But here it is again:

As for a side note/question, especially @MrJ (as it's even easier for him as it's auto created totallly), do you still have the random schedule for us 14 teams that you created back then with some website dedicated to creation of league schedules?

I already have match days in place (in calendar), but if you could send regular season schedule here in this thread (would you please add R1 or Round 1, R2, and so on) so I could then use that in my forthcoming post?


In addition to what I wrote then, if you are willing to help with this, in this case if you could possibly send it here on this thread - it doesn't need to remain here (you could just delete it from this thread once you see it in HGL Scores thread).

Official team abbreviations are already found from new forums, underlined after team number, as you probably noticed.
Due to 4000 character limit we would likely have to use only abbreviations in those 1/2 posts reserved for schedule (in HGL Scores), yet if you're as easily able to get simultaneously a list with full team names, perhaps could you save it to your computer or something if it needs to be used later (for instance, copy-pasted to here, where I might copy-paste it into a certain Scores-thread post etc.)?

Of course you're not obligated to do this, but I was just wondering because you had created an account for some website that autocreated schedule for league, if my memory serves me, so that would probably be somewhat easy process for you if I'm not mistaken? I'd prefer not to register to such site, if it's not absolutely necessary..

From: MrJ

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324689.423 in reply to 324689.422
Date: 3/14/2025 4:00:26 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
348348
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
Yeah, I'm happy to do a draw for us using the 14 teams with the abbreviations you have already chosen. I will add here in this thread, round-by-round as you request. Easy. I have already had it generated and will put it in a nicer format here. Hopefully I can get it to fit in a single post. 13 games per team.

Wagner, the Abbreviation you have used for 'Madrid Chotis' is 'D'. Is this correct? Seems strange to use the letter D.

Last edited by MrJ at 3/14/2025 4:04:22 AM

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ
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324689.424 in reply to 324689.423
Date: 3/14/2025 4:27:56 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
348348
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

Home-Grown League (HGL) Schedule:

TEAMS:
Wagner College (172501) WAG ||FIN|| $K Manager: Wagner
Les Gueux du Marais (86508) LGM ||FRA|| $K Manager: Coach Faz
Elan Demars (87312) ED ||FRA|| $K Manager: demars
Holy City Hoopers (23767) HCH ||USA|| $K Manager: Gccsteel
Buckner Bandits (23579) BUC ||USA|| $K Manager: T-Lit
Madrid Chotis (76877) (D) ||SPA|| $K Manager: Jotadoce
WiMaOlca (35977) WMO ||FRA|| $K Manager: WiMaOl
Rajdersi (237760) RAJ ||POL|| $K Manager: Paul George
Santa Eufemia Ducks (24340) SED ||ARG|| $K Manager: GM-Enzo
Swan River Serpents (197075) SRS ||AUS|| $K Manager: MrJ
Lielupes Melnas Sirdis (146915) LMS ||LVA|| $K Manager: Moneta
Suuret Muinaiset (172657) SUM ||FIN|| $K Manager: cthulhu
Heywood Big Dogs (196315) HEY ||AUS|| $K Manager: Deano25
Svätý Jur Snakers (172088) HAD ||SVK|| $K Manager: Hadar



ROUND 1

???

ROUND 2

???

ROUND 3

???


ROUND 4

???


ROUND 5

???


ROUND 6

???


ROUND 7

???


ROUND 8

???


ROUND 9

???


ROUND 10

???


ROUND 11

???


ROUND 12

???


ROUND 13

???


ROUND 14


???


ROUND 15

???


If managers could do a quick check to make sure I haven't made any mistakes (or the program I use hasn't made any mistakes) as I can't see any.


NOTE: I'm also happy to change any team abbreviations if managers would like something particular. Just make it known ASAP so that Wagner can copy and paste the final copy into the main thread after I have made the corrections. :-)


Last edited by MrJ at 3/15/2025 7:04:47 AM

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: demars

To: MrJ
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324689.425 in reply to 324689.424
Date: 3/14/2025 7:00:03 AM
Elan Demars
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Hell !

I start playing agaisnt Cthulthu (or Cthulhu or Cthulu...).


From: MrJ

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324689.426 in reply to 324689.425
Date: 3/14/2025 7:12:12 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
348348
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
Hell !

I start playing agaisnt Cthulthu (or Cthulhu or Cthulu...).



LOL I think your game should be reasonably close. I got lucky drawing Buckner Bandits. They will still probably beat me, but at least I won't lose by 100 points in my first game!

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: Chucarro

To: MrJ
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324689.427 in reply to 324689.424
Date: 3/14/2025 10:08:22 AM
Club Trouville
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i'm out?
why?


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From: MrJ

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324689.429 in reply to 324689.427
Date: 3/14/2025 9:23:35 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
348348
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
i'm out?
why?



Hi there, Chucarro. I apologise. With so many posts in this thread, we missed adding you formally.
I was going to not play, which is why (I think) you said you were willing if needed. Again, this is my fault as ultimately I have been able to compete.
If i hadn't missed your post (noted it), I would have bbmailed you and we would have worked it out.

Sadly, I missed your inclusion and I had thanked you and even said you would be included, so I am feeling a little embarrassed and sorry at the moment.

I'm not sure how to fix this?

Option 1: i can step aside and let you play (although i am really wishing to compete now that I have committed).
Option 2: we agree to 15 teams playing and I reform the schedule? Everyone...what do we think? It would mean one team would have a bye each week. Easy enough.
Option 3: we find 1 more team and I reform the schedule to have 16 teams playing. Again, easy enough as we have the time.
Option 4: Chucarro misses out and is an automatic inclusion in the next season (not nice for Chucarro)?

Thoughts anyone? Commissioner Wagner?

Last edited by MrJ at 3/14/2025 9:24:50 PM

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ
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324689.430 in reply to 324689.429
Date: 3/15/2025 4:11:55 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
348348
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

Officially Home-Grown

Last edited by MrJ at 3/15/2025 4:52:56 AM

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: demars
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324689.431 in reply to 324689.429
Date: 3/15/2025 4:56:12 AM
Elan Demars
III.10
Overall Posts Rated:
199199
At this moment of the pre-season, I think it's easy to re-build the schedule, and play with 15 teams.

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