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I thought I read earlier in this thread that the intent was to populate bot teams in micronations, but I certainly could have misread that. Perhaps the intent was to allow second teams in any country. I apologize if I misunderstood that.

For those of us already in micronations, it would make no sense to get a team in another micronation.

Maybe a rule like this would make sense...

"A manager from country with more than 500 users can sign his 2nd team only in countries with less than 500 users".

I understand some USA managers would like to open their 2nd team in Italy, Poland or China (or viceversa). But this rule would not only solve micronation issue to an extent; it would also balance NT competition a bit.

I agree with this rule, i think probably in that case idea of 2nd team have better impact on what you say micronation and nt competitive :-)

Yeah, great. Force me to play against bots most of the time. That's really great competition.

Last edited by LA-Karangula at 1/15/2014 6:37:29 AM

That's why we should help micronations' players - they forced to play with bots now.

Yeah, great. Force me to play against bots most of the time. That's really great competition.

What a knee-jerk reaction...

Compare this to not having the option of 2nd team at all? Btw, country I come from has less than 500 users and you play against bots only in first 2-3 cup rounds.

At least D.I leagues of most of micronations would be filled with either local or foreign managers, so if you are really unlucky and fall into D.II full of bots, you have to wait only one season to advance to a competitive league, while building your arena and training while winning.

Last edited by Koperboy at 1/15/2014 7:40:00 AM

I posted aversion of this in the Australian forum as well, so apologies for the repetition.

If back in season 11 or whenever it was i started playing this game, if I found out after 4-5 weeks that, as a new user, I was battling in Div IV against Supporter user's '2nd teams'.... Supporters who also have teams in the top leagues around the world, and have been playing the game for real life years longer than me.....then there is:
a) No way i would buy supporter
and
b) I would probably think "This is shite" and quit the game straight away.....

I remember back when I started, finding out that I was playing against a few teams who had been around for 1-2 seasons more than me, and it made me feel a bit cheated... you know? As in that it was unfair, ... sure it was challanging, but they promoted before me and of course it was because they were more experienced.....but I felt a bit like 'hmmm well that sux' and it questioned why i would play the game at such an unfair level.

So whilst i realise that the argument for having a second team is to retain current user's who have supporter, BB need to think VERY carefully about implications to NEW users as well as future Supporter users.

a) How many current users will quit the game/stop paying supporter, JUST BECAUSE a second team is not allowed?....like really? - Is this really the biggest problem with BB today? ..... For me - this requst for a second team has only been loud and active for a very short period of time, as opposed to other problems which have been around for a long time. Would you seriously not pay supporter because this new idea is not implimented? (Perhaps a poll for this would be logical).
and
b) How many new Supporters will they NOT get in the future, because new users will quit when they find out they are playing against a Supporters second team? Or even better.... A new user in New Zealand discovers that he is playing against an Australian user! Heavan forbid it would cause greater controversy than a Chappel brothers underarm bowl! (never mind if ur not Kiwi or Aussie... its an 'in-joke').

The argument against point b) is that new users are quitting because they have no other user's in their country to be competitive with.....which is true... Bot competition... but i feel that 2nd teams won't neccassarily solve this... but if this is truly a problem, then perhaps BB need to re-assign them into a different country/group which HAS been suggested many times before....... I believe that would be a much simplier, neater and better result than the suggested 2nd team. Or some other solution along these lines. IF this is actually a real problem.

I feel that BB should analyse statistically, why users are leaving, where they are from, what is stopping them from paying supporter.... hey maybe people just all spend their money on NBA 2k14 and can't afford supporter this year? .... Or maybe, like in Australia, the currency has changed, and now, their supporter package is twice as much (as it will be in Australia fairly shortly! haha)....
Id prefer BB to investigate these potential reasons first as opposed to a knee jerk reaction to a mob-request of a second team....... No offence to everyone who wants this :)