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Utopia wasn't a mistake
I repeat utopia IS and WAS a SUCCESS

Sorry for this Spam (maybe) .... but I think it may be interesting for this merging- discussion.

Now we had nearly one whole day without one little posting in Utopia .... i think this is very less for more than 900 active managers.

to me its not about how the merge would actually work or more competition, I encourage that. But we have a great community in our " micro nation" and some of us do a lot to keep managers active and in the game. Besides that im a big fan of the national teams , and have been involved in such for years. spending countless hours;) And to see that taken away for what seems to be the same reason utopia was created ( besides making money, fair enough ), makes me wanna spend my time and money elsewhere.

Its just a game, many others to choose from i guess.

Who is saying NT/U21 will be taken away? Nobody

In Africa, merging only domestic tournaments in a continental one, as I proposed earlier, could be a 1st step. This change may also be done in South-America and Asia. This would be a good start to add competitiveness and to know if users from different countries get along most of the time, before proceeding further. ;)

Well, thank you for the advice and that wonderfully constructive, on-topic post of your own, Mr. U21 Romania. At least my post wasn't 11 paragraphs of spam, eh?

Speaking of spam, all the me-me-me in this thread is no better. Perhaps Ryan should have made more effort at the start to ask people to be constructive and express at least a bit of thought as to what is good for BB. At any rate, for those who aren't just spouting me-me-me, here are some thoughts.

The best suggestion I have seen has all of the following attributes:

1. Every team retains its national identity and retains its flag.
2. Every country could continue in BBB.
3. Every country would continue to have its own forum.
4. Countries that do not want to merge with each other would not have to do that.
5. Every world would have a full Division 1, 2 and 3 at least, and probably a full Division 4.
6. The competitive and financial advantages and disadvantages of playing in a macro country or a micro country would be completely evened out.
7. Every team could retain its own history.
8. The drafts could continue as they do now, making it easy to put better players in the draft and have it apply to everyone evenly.
9. Private Leagues could become more important to the game as they showcase teams of the same country.

I look at the first six as essential and the last three as desirable. These standards can certainly be met, but not without a reshuffle of existing leagues (NOT a mere merger of countries large or small). Whether Marin and Ryan are prepared for that, or will just nibble around the edges, remains to be seen.



Last edited by Mike Franks at 4/14/2016 7:15:53 PM

Hi,
i answer you directly because i think the lack of competion is the main issue of BB.

my background: i'm not a newbie, i played in the past. when i started around season 3/4, more than 10 of my friends joined the game. we had a nt manager, some high levels teams in italy, we had some of the best trained player in italy ( ex. Fanesi).
At the time, you could join and start immediatly play in a league where u could win or lose games.


Look at my situation since i joined.

I've played, i believe, in a quite good way since now. Tanked when i could, won a playout series to stay 1 season more in IV, tanked the season after because i couldn't compete, in the meanwhile building up Arena and young quality players for high income. Then i finished in a league full of bot. And i 'm winning all the games, paying more or less the floor for players.

How many competitive games have i played?
5 in 2 season?
How do you think a new user could keep playing the game this way? ( i mean someone that has never played that before )
Playing in a really good way don't let u compete for more than half a year. How the h**l a person is not going to quit?

BBs are putting a lot of effort on trying to save this game.
But, i think, they are putting a lot of energy in the wrong way.
A soft merge will probably fix a little the economic problem and few players will have more competition.
Maybe we are going to save 10 or 100 or 500 account for that.
But the biggest problem i think, with the actual leagues division, people are not going to keep playing ( and the people that creates new account are just really few).

We need to create an enviroment, where when people join, can compete sooner than actually. we need to attract new people and let them stay in the game.

That 's why i think a full merge is the only way to save the game in the future.

About NT:
For sure, u can keep the nationality of your players, and keep NT that way. I dislike nationalism a lot and i think there should be no place for that especially in a game. A game should be an occasion to meet new people and new culture. But if people want to keep showing their proud about where they come from, we should let them.


Last edited by FalloPalani at 4/15/2016 4:45:12 AM

A possible merger affects like 5% of the current managers. We can afford to lose a bunch of them.