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Until now I have a lot of question marks how you will handle the merge.....
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2) will they have to sell their best players if they are going down from DI to DIII...
3) will you make a complete restart????

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2) Yes, but you have to keep in mind that the managers who would end up in a third division are also the worst micro-nation teams currently. Even in merged leagues almost all of the competition will exist in divisions I and II. For the most part division III would be filled with inactive teams or terrible managers.
3) Nope.

2) Do you mean that as a practical matter they will not be able to afford them, or do you mean some sort of forced sale by rule? Either way doesn't sound so good, and forcing it seems harsh and unnecessary.
3) If that is set in concrete, I don't see how you can do anything of sufficient magnitude to make any difference at all.

I haven't made my mind up about this mergers yet, but there is one thing that you really have to take into consideration. The hostility between some of the countries will make potentially difficulties on the forums. Imagine this was 1805 and we proposed USA to be merged with England, as you speak the same language. Israel and Palestine, US and ISIS as you are already fighting a war of terror, you can join together. Aserbaijan and Armenia has been close to war over some territories.

I know this is a non political game, but on some levels you can't avoid to take this into consideration.

If a merger equals ending up in DIV III, the most common strategy would be to sell the expensice/quality players, tank the last one or two seasons and prepare the roster for the lower league. No biggie imo.

Managers of the game we wanted to create Utopia for money, now the prices of players have become absurd.

The micro-nations are not to blame.

To change things simply to interdict the transfer market teams Utopian only the draft and training.

And it is not the players to adapt, it is the game to adapt to the players.

Soon more players to fit you are alone.

I encourage people to offer their feedback on a potential change to micro-nations, regardless of whether they're for or against it. This thread wouldn't exist if we didn't want feedback. What's not okay is people rudely dismissing the idea because they're opposed to it and then attempting to deflect the conversation in other directions.

If exactely this would be standing at the beginning of this thread, maybe there will be a more informed and enlightening debate.

But it has to be clear, that for a manager who is happy in BB playing in a Middle Europe Nation with about 50 Users and NT ranking 30 - 50 it will be very disappointed and also in a bad mood by confontated with playing in LITTLE EUROPE with Albania, Cyprus and Malta. This seems like a bad joke.

The huge majority of the users don´t write (or even look) in Global forums because of Language, time, interest and so on ... therefore in such discussions you will have a majority of users who are very active, sometimes feeling important to be a part of the development process, an at least interested in changings.

There are 14 Nations with max. 5 and 31 with max. 10 users. Most of them probably won´t be happy by loosing his country. You can cut some nations and let the the users decide where they want to play. (btw: I still don´t know why beginners should not decide where to play ... maybe the problem would be solved by itself ;-)

For me as a German-speaking guy playing in Middle Europe I first would like to merge with DACH- Nations, second with Europe and third with the hole world.

The problem with merging continental could be, that for example South-America will be a Micro Nation compared with Europe .... therfore I would prefer a new BBB (like in Football - Champions League, Euro-League, the European Champion plays against the Champions of North America, South America, Asia a.s.o.) so there will be more competition for more users. Not for everybody, thats right, but for more than just the national winners. And I really don´t think, that there will be more competion in, for example, the VII. Divison in Europe (if there will be a merge)

Last edited by hupfingatsch at 4/14/2016 8:43:16 AM