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... We're all just trying to be heard and it seems like people are just ignoring the against comments, and then going on discussing the ideas of those who are in favor !

Not exactly. People are stating their personal preference regardless of what is good for BB as a whole, and ignoring posts that try to examine the merits to BB.

First, thank you for the objections. Second, this will be my last post at the moment in this thread.

Some web traffic will be bots, but some will be people that play another game similar to this, and are looking for other viable options to help them pass the time.

I think this is already a *natural* process without any ads or using SEO/SEA to show up on top of a search list. I guess each of us have done this. I frequently search for online manager games (in a game I’m interested in the managing part, to win games is more a side effect). I’m playing two other games (rugby, soccer). As mentioned, I worked in the design/web/IT field and get more people playing by doing SEO/SEA well, is minimal for such a specific game. To help increasing user in micro-nations (f.ex. native Japanese in Japan) you have to make a *Bling-Bling* Website, add some free cool features and most important… Create an shiny APP which runs on any device properly. In Japan almost nobody is using a computer, they are all stucked to their smartphones 24/7. Can’t speak for other countries, but probably even there people are using a smartphone instead of a home pc. I’m an old-fashioned guy, I prefer hanging in front of my mac and *managing* things in BB. But having an APP will bring more user into the game, IMHO. As long as the website is like it is now, from the business point of view, a merger of nations is the only option to get more competition, to make it more interesting, to get more user which buying the supporter pack then.

If there are groups for the u21/nt purpose, my warning would simply be that forcing groups like this wont make someone who didn't want to develop for the u21/nt pride before suddenly want to. Some people play it for the clubs.

I don’t think people will change their way of playing this game after a merger of micro-nations. Until now, someone’s only goal is getting the crown, someone’s is only having national players in the team, someone’s only training NT players and so on. I don’t think user are changing their way of playing the game radically. There might be a slight shift to an abandonent NT, but then hopefully the community of a country within the mixed leagues will stuck together and try to find a way how to push the NT besides play it for the clubs.

I would think the cup would actually be the ideal test run, but if people are clamoring for more challange in the league, then it probably would reduce the ease of reaching the finals in the smallest of micro's, which would improve finances just as much as a drop in T.V. revenue or other financial restrictions, so it could improve the health of the game.

There will be always unforseen things going to happen after a merger, especially when it comes to the financial thing. It’s in the nature of mankind, that one will always (more or less) accept a certain situation, be it in real life or here in the game. Here I trust the BB developers, that they will react on things if necessary. For sure, some user will leave, but this game is a cool thing, even for a non-basketball-affinato like me. Those who like it, will keep on playing. And the more competition it offers, the more will keep playing it. And this is the starting point… Keep as much user as possible, then start to elaborate how to get more user. That won’t be done in a few season, especially when the whole internet jungle is filled with crap and you must be the one who shines. If you keep the game as it is at the moment, there will be no progress. That’s why I support strongly every step towards a more interesting game. Do the merger…

I cannot truly speak as a representative voice of my micro country but I'd like to start off with mentioning some of the negative aspects of merging countries into a new one.
First, countries with a low amount of managers will certainly not be pleased about giving up their comforts in D1 leagues. Merging countries will result into the distribution of managers across several divisions and not a single one like in previous cases. They'd have to give up certain privileges as arena income and overall financial disparities.
There is also the issue of national identity. Of course people take pride into the fact that their barely populated countries(ingame) are represented within the game and the competition. Merging countries could have the said negative effect that the NT's become weakened as users might protest of the slow disappearance of their fellow countrymen in the NT.

I'd advocate for the second option, which already has tweaks of the first option, but lets take it a step further.
As the BB's have said, the NT's/ U-21's will not be merged and every country gets to keep their flags. The only overlapping variable would be that teams from different countries will be put into a 'melting pot', new leagues containing different countries.

Idk if anyone has proposed the following but Ill do it nonetheless:
If we merge smaller countries together, how about we create 2 different versions of NT's ? 1 version would be the traditional way: Every country gets to keep their NT.
However, the second version would be that we create a totally new NT as an 'Unified Basketball Association of A,B,C (etc) while also keeping the countries individual NT's ? This would imply that merged countries will have 2 versions of representative NT's :
One is representing their country, the other will contain the best of the best and will compete united against other countries.

I know this idea could have some implications and requires further discussions and tweaking but I hope you understand the general idea of my proposition.
Having 2 ''versions' of an NT could sove the nationality issue; at the same time we could observe the effects of unifying NT's for several seasons and observe potential power shifts and dynamics of the teams in ranking. We do dont have to implement them immediately. We could test them out at the same time and then make a decision in the seasons to come.

Until now I have a lot of question marks how you will handle the merge.....
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2) will they have to sell their best players if they are going down from DI to DIII...
3) will you make a complete restart????

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2) Yes, but you have to keep in mind that the managers who would end up in a third division are also the worst micro-nation teams currently. Even in merged leagues almost all of the competition will exist in divisions I and II. For the most part division III would be filled with inactive teams or terrible managers.
3) Nope.

2) Do you mean that as a practical matter they will not be able to afford them, or do you mean some sort of forced sale by rule? Either way doesn't sound so good, and forcing it seems harsh and unnecessary.
3) If that is set in concrete, I don't see how you can do anything of sufficient magnitude to make any difference at all.

I haven't made my mind up about this mergers yet, but there is one thing that you really have to take into consideration. The hostility between some of the countries will make potentially difficulties on the forums. Imagine this was 1805 and we proposed USA to be merged with England, as you speak the same language. Israel and Palestine, US and ISIS as you are already fighting a war of terror, you can join together. Aserbaijan and Armenia has been close to war over some territories.

I know this is a non political game, but on some levels you can't avoid to take this into consideration.