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I am in favor of option 4, for the record.

It is basically the same as option 2, with a new league NT, but with dual flags. Maybe only symbolic secondary flags original country). I see it as a conversation piece in the new league forums. I think it would help with rivalry amongst teams to get their nation in the NTs. So it would not only be a broader base to build new league NT from, but also create an inner tension to drive the development. It is the perfect solution as I see it.

I'd actually like to see more opinions on this from the micro-nation managers.

So it seems like a fact that you are willing to do any kind of merge.

I still got no answer to my question (from an official) ...

What is your goal, why is this necessary, which problems do you want to fix with new groupings ... ?
... please give me one good reason ... and maybe a view more ;-)

Hm, if I had to guess I'd say your post is cynic. I don't think answering to your question would help.

8. The drafts could continue as they do now, making it easy for Marin to put better players in the draft and have it apply to everyone evenly.

If they do this then it will basically kill their national teams. Say there is a league made of 4 Scots, 6 Welsh and 6 Irish. The Scots all do well and finish in the top 4 then they will have the last 4 picks in the draft. So the the Welsh and Irish get the best picks while Scotland get the leftovers. If this happens for a couple seasons then the Scottish national team could will be effectively dead.

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Corrected the missed quote.

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wasnt utopia created for those who wanted more competion and so on. And why bring this post just right after everybody has paid for a new round of utopia.
Anyway Im against ending the micro nations, and for me it would be the end of my 26 season buzzerbeater career no doubt. I would rather see some more effort to promote the game instead.

8. The drafts could continue as they do now, making it easy for Marin to put better players in the draft and have it apply to everyone evenly.

If they do this then it will basically kill their national teams. Say there is a league made of 4 Scots, 6 Welsh and 6 Irish. The Scots all do well and finish in the top 4 then they will have the last 4 picks in the draft. So the the Welsh and Irish get the best picks while Scotland get the leftovers. If this happens for a couple seasons then the Scottish national team could will be effectively dead.

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Corrected the missed quote.

You have a much higher opinion of the draft than I do. Do you really think that success in B3 depends on a low finish in the regular league in order to get an early draft pick? That isn't how it works now.

You are still thinking in terms of merged nations. That is not the nature of the proposal(s) I have seen that meet the standards I described.

If they do this then it will basically kill their national teams. Say there is a league made of 4 Scots, 6 Welsh and 6 Irish. The Scots all do well and finish in the top 4 then they will have the last 4 picks in the draft. So the the Welsh and Irish get the best picks while Scotland get the leftovers. If this happens for a couple seasons then the Scottish national team could will be effectively dead.

Good point. That's why we have to consider having joint national teams (but with their original flags presented).

NTs in their current form, i think, not only for the reasons you mention, will probably suffer.

With joint league NTs:
In your example it would be NTs with Welsh, Irish and Scottish players. The possibility of getting late picks if there are only 4 players from Scotland, and all of them finish on top is present, but that does not necessarily mean that you don't get to have players on the NT. 6 Welsh and 6 Irish managers training 2 players each would still only be 12 players, some young for the U21, and som older for the NTs. If the 4 Scottish teams finish on top of the league every season you might start to see less Scottish players on the NTs. But I think you are blowing things up, and maybe underestimating your opponents.

I had another stance on this subject, but I see the implications. For the communities sake, I would like to see the original flags in league, and a new flag displayed only on the U21/NT page and when looking at the national team roster (going to the original player page would display original country flag, but mention that they are playing in the groups NT).