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Thanks for clarification again.
That's a good point, that we can't add posts in front of it. But I (if I start the thread) can still always keep on editing the first post if needed, right?
One of the options would be that I'd send the proposition for example to your BBMail MrJ, or here in the forum, and see what you guys think of it and how would you possibly change it (to minimize the need for editing it in the future, and to make a good impression to people who find it for the first time) before actually publishing it in the forum thread.

As for introductory post things to consider include for instance how much information I'll add to the post itself, and how many links will be added to the main (first) post to provide additional details of the league, and whether it's better to create my own texts for each linked information page, or is it ok to refer to posts created for example by MrJ.

I think it's likely we won't be needing a poll to begin this homegrown league forum thread... But having said that, I suppose by providing a list of name suggestions, we need to be able to reach a conclusive decision on a league name before actually publishing/creating the new thread, right?
So I don't know if people noticed, that we need to vote now/really soon for the league name, as you brought up those earlier proposed league names again (as no votes have been cast yet)?

There is a possibility to make a poll for it, but it's totally possible to do the voting here on this forum too. I'd just want to see many opinions cast on this voting, as while we can change the name later, it's not totally ideal to do such change at a later time.

The point is though, as we can't change the forum thread name after being created (remember that we can and likely will create another official league thread for the season after that, so at the point of season changes titles can be "changed"), it's best to decide name of the league before we (I?) will create a new thread for the league.

If we vote here in the forum (as I understood from your post) for a new homegrown league name, my vote goes to BBHG, which has been my original suggestion for the league name since September 24th, 2024!

If we vote her, my vote goes to my proposal, from the very beginning of this (long) journey to a HomeGrown League.
H²G²L is a :
- nice name
- respectful souvenir of a Sci-Fi Novel
- better choice for HomeGrowns

(yes, I know how to sell my point of view ;) )

Thank you for your vote, WiMaOl!

Also, please vote for the league name from list above (provided by MrJ) if you have a favorite from the above list!
Same goes with other participating managers, so please vote for name, so we can get the new forum thread for the league started soon!
(For those who didn't read through all the long posts and wonder what's the rush: want to include league name in the title, as title can't be changed later on).

It is possible to do the ground work without having established the forum thread, and as we're not going to try to convince anyone else to join for the first season of the league, in that sense we are not in a terrible rush to publish/establish the thread - having said that, it's good to do most of the writing and planning of intro post content and links provided in it (and such) during this time we're waiting for league name results. And like mentioned, I've already written a lot of it.

A word/though about polls, especially considering homegrown league. This was something that I didn't think of earlier for some reason.
As background info, I think I've never started a poll (and can't do so now being non-Supporter), so I have a question.
I'd assume it's not possible to determine who is eligible to vote in that poll?
If controlling of that (by person who started the poll) isn't possible, then I guess those official polls do not work optimally for our purposes, as I´d assume we want to ask opinions of managers who are participating to the league (and maybe in some cases, opinions of those who are granted a spot to the league for the future seasons), and not from a "random bunch" of managers (which could be the case with an open, official BB poll as we don't see who has given those votes).

It is of course not so easy to see current results of voting when voting is done within forum thread (like this one), but maybe we could take a habit of writing a forum post, which we then update as voting progresses and more votes are casted. The problem with this of course is, that it's always left behind by new posts, and will become increasingly hard to find.

I'll just add the current score here though, not in a separate post (if someone wants to create such post, they are of course free to do so). I won't make assumptions who will vote for what, so it's only actual votes given so far that are counted here.
Remember, there are 14 possible votes (if we allow only voting by current participants), and only 2 have been cast so far, so please vote if you still haven't done so. Name is such an important part of the league (and in short so undesirable to change later on), that I would encourage everyone of us 14 to voice their opinion on this naming of the league-voting.

As there are so few of us voting (and it's possible that not all people even vote, even though we'd really hope you will!), one option of course, if we want to add a variety to the name voting, is to give one manager 2-3 votes instead of one.

For instance: with 2 voting possibilities, manager gets to cast 2 votes, first giving a favorite suggestion 2 points and second 1 point only to managers' second favorite option.
If voting with 3 possibilities, manager gets to cast 3 votes, first giving 3 points, second 2 points and 3rd 1 point to his 3rd favorite option.
That way we might be able to see a wider picture on how managers really think of these names.
This was just a random suggestion that occurred to me just a while ago, and on my behalf there is no need to implement this kind of method for this name voting, if you guys feel 1 vote per person provides good enough result!?

Current votes:
1 BBHG (BuzzerBeater HomeGrown) (Wagner)
0 The League (Wagner)
1 H²G²L (Heroic Home Grown GreatestS League) (demars)
0 IHGL (International HG League) (MrJ)
0 HGL (Hadar)

My vote goes to Hadar's HGL.

Regarding the poll: you are correct that we cannot control who votes in the poll. Therefore, managers who are not HG or invested in it, could vote for the name that sounds the best to them. So, keeping a record like the one above, Wagner, seems the best solution as we really only want those managers interested and HG to be able to vote for its name imo.

Also, regarding editing the initial post of a new thread: yes, once you have started a new thread, the manager who started the thread is the ONLY manager who can edit that first post. So, let's put it altogether:

1. Decide on the name (keep the tally and once it's clear, it's done)
2. Wagner, you cans tart a new thread using the newly agreed name as its title
3. As Commissioner, Wagner, which has been determined now by enough votes, you can decide what goes into that first post and can edit it as you see fit.

What I have done in previous years, Wagner, knowing the first posts would be needed, was to put a 'TBA' (To Be Advised) label on the first post, or a couple posts after it, knowing they might need to be used specifically for the League.

For example, you start the new thread with a post about whatever. Then you quickly reply to that post (before anyone else does) and simply write TBA or maybe 'For future use' etc. You could do this with two or three posts immediately after the initial post. In this way, you may choose to have the first post as 'Information', the second post about 'League Game Results' etc etc. At least you then have options knowing you can't go back and add posts to the original.


Last edited by MrJ at 3/9/2025 10:35:45 PM

Also, please vote for the league name from list above

HGL (Hadar)

My vote goes to Hadar's HGL

There is beauty in simplicity ;)

Update...

1 BBHG (BuzzerBeater HomeGrown) (Wagner)
0 The League (Wagner)
1 H²G²L (Heroic Home Grown GreatestS League) (demars)
0 IHGL (International HG League) (MrJ)
3 HGL (Hadar)

I like the simplicity of HGL too.

I like the simplicity of HGL too.

Agreed.

And another vote comes in for simplicity. :-)

Updated:

1 BBHG (BuzzerBeater HomeGrown) (Wagner)
0 The League (Wagner)
1 H²G²L (Heroic Home Grown GreatestS League) (demars)
0 IHGL (International HG League) (MrJ)
4 HGL (Hadar)



@ Deano25...looking forward to a win against Malaysia tonight?

Last edited by MrJ at 3/10/2025 4:56:41 AM

I’m hopeful, but we’ve under performed a little in recent weeks.. fingers crossed!