BuzzerBeater Forums

Suggestions > Increasing 19 y.o. draftees' max starting skill to 9

Increasing 19 y.o. draftees' max starting skill to 9

Set priority
Show messages by
From: mink0ff

This Post:
11
309522.37 in reply to 309522.36
Date: 7/4/2021 7:34:42 PM
BC Vitosha Sofia
A Grupa
Overall Posts Rated:
875875
Second Team:
Sofia Alpha Dogz
Yeah, well... I was trying to pick a quote to address but I would have to quote the whole thing. This is exactly my thought process - piece by piece. I couldn't agree more with everything that you wrote, I just didn't want to serve it here right away.

Elastics could be compensated in the 20 yo training season and what you refer to as "losing rhythm" is just the way that we are accustomed to doing it right now. We would still get those fast initial OD pops and those ID cross-pops, just a little later in time and that would be compensated by the higher initial levels of the 19 yo trainee to a great extent. This:

...with 7 8 useless SB, u could argue that 6-8 reb for guards is also bad...
however is what I was referring to and this is a huge reason why the 19 y.o. would be the worse pick. It would cripple his max build and with the speed of training right now - that's what matters the most.

From: mink0ff

This Post:
00
309522.38 in reply to 309522.36
Date: 7/4/2021 7:46:14 PM
BC Vitosha Sofia
A Grupa
Overall Posts Rated:
875875
Second Team:
Sofia Alpha Dogz
I don't agree that 75 is too much because those 75 doesn't split well
Not necessarily the case... That's 69 and boy, would I get out of my seat if I saw it on a 19 yo draftee:



Much consideration is needed.


From: mink0ff

This Post:
00
309522.41 in reply to 309522.40
Date: 7/5/2021 6:07:59 AM
BC Vitosha Sofia
A Grupa
Overall Posts Rated:
875875
Second Team:
Sofia Alpha Dogz
Hahah yeah, we don't get to choose that distribution (thank God), so this was an extreme example. Besides one could argue that those 6 TSP up to 75 are likely to make him a worse pick, not a better one. I myself bought some 49-52 TSP guys recently that I consider much better trainees than most 55-60 TSP players out there.

One thing that comes to mind is to discuss increasing HN/DV (to say 12-13 max levels) on 19 yo draftees and keep the rest as is in order to mimic one season of 1v1 but I don't believe that will be accepted well.

From: mink0ff

This Post:
11
309522.43 in reply to 309522.42
Date: 7/5/2021 6:47:21 AM
BC Vitosha Sofia
A Grupa
Overall Posts Rated:
875875
Second Team:
Sofia Alpha Dogz
it would be better to make them different than the 18 yo drafted one season before

That makes sense. I would prefer it this way too.

i still believe that we should just have a bigger % of top 19 yo, 70-80 TSP)

This is the desired effect, yeah. 9.49 instead of 8.99 would achieve just that and it would make players look better visually without too much effective improvement. See this way displayed TSP will increase by 4-6 points on avg but real TSP would only increase by 2-3 pts (for the 60+ TSP guys that is).

From: mink0ff

This Post:
00
309522.45 in reply to 309522.44
Date: 7/5/2021 10:23:08 AM
BC Vitosha Sofia
A Grupa
Overall Posts Rated:
875875
Second Team:
Sofia Alpha Dogz
U wanna take half mesaures fine you can...but then I ask whats the point, to make 19yo at least as valuable as 18yo, or just making the gap smaller between them and waste more seasons untill you make 19yo better again, its kinda to ignore the situation just because u afraid to change too much, even when its needed.


Well, that the point of having a constructive discussion. I myself suggested 9.99 initially. Honestly right now I am not convince which is better 9.99 or 9.49. We will have to figure it out eventually.

But taking half-measures twice (if need be) is better than taking "over-measures" whose effects will last for 15+ seasons irreversibly...

Advertisement