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23982.35 in reply to 23982.34
Date: 4/12/2008 12:52:51 PM
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Unless the rules are changed, there will be a salary reduction - it's already in there.

And for NT managers, it will be a godsend, as many users don't want to cooperate with the NTs since there is little tangible benefit at the moment for having an NT player.

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23982.36 in reply to 23982.34
Date: 4/12/2008 12:56:59 PM
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If you like how the NT system works in Hattrick, then I don't really know what to tell you..I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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23982.37 in reply to 23982.36
Date: 4/12/2008 1:09:12 PM
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What everyone should consider is that soon, a player will only be on the NT if he has legendary skills. He will have to be trained up to ages like 21 and 22.

That's a huge disadvantage for the teams training them. The reality is that nobody will want to train players for NTs because they will be losing games and money, because of the unefficient training. Not to mention the astronomical salaries they will have to be paying, that they wouldn't have to if they stop training the old guys for the NT and trained new ones.

So if there are no salary reductions the whole idea of the best players on the NTs goes down the drain. It simply won't work. Salary reductions are a necessity.


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Date: 4/12/2008 1:12:04 PM
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What everyone should consider is that soon, a player will only be on the NT if he has legendary skills. He will have to be trained up to ages like 21 and 22.

That's a huge disadvantage for the teams training them. The reality is that nobody will want to train players for NTs because they will be losing games and money, because of the unefficient training. Not to mention the astronomical salaries they will have to be paying, that they wouldn't have to if they stop training the old guys for the NT and trained new ones.

So if there are no salary reductions the whole idea of the best players on the NTs goes down the drain. It simply won't work. Salary reductions are a necessity.



I'm not sure we'll ever see a player with more than, say, 2 legendary skills, and I think that's pushing it.

However, the point is still incredibly valid, since players WILL be trained toi very high levels, and if no one can afford them at all, then it's pointless.

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23982.40 in reply to 23982.39
Date: 4/12/2008 1:13:46 PM
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And I wasn't saying that that was the only reason I am against bonuses for NT players.

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23982.41 in reply to 23982.37
Date: 4/12/2008 3:34:42 PM
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i think the club comes before the NT.

if the salary is too high, you sell the player or you stop to train him.
in the first case someone else can train him, in the second another player will play in the NT.

i prefer see disadvantage in the NT than in the club. because with the salary reduction a club has an advantage, while if a NT lose a player is not the end of the world.

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23982.42 in reply to 23982.38
Date: 4/12/2008 4:46:25 PM
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And that fact is the most unrealistic in such a games... That best players just aren`t needed... In reality best players will always have club and best clubs will always have money for them... That`s what I really miss in such a games...


As well I have many suggestions how to limit the number of such a players, but almost everyone would kill me if that would be implemented.... Cause would be much more harder to play...

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23982.44 in reply to 23982.41
Date: 4/12/2008 5:29:37 PM
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i think the club comes before the NT.

if the salary is too high, you sell the player or you stop to train him.
in the first case someone else can train him, in the second another player will play in the NT.

i prefer see disadvantage in the NT than in the club. because with the salary reduction a club has an advantage, while if a NT lose a player is not the end of the world.

You are concerned that the salary reduction will represent a gain financially to the team that has the NT player, but you must also consider how much money they are losing by training an old player.

Training a 22 year old to keep him in the NT will represent on average a X weeks delay on every pop, if compared to an 18 year old. It's like losing X weeks of training. And that's on every pop. Can you imagine how much money is lost like that? (X depends on the training and sevral factors, but you know what I mean)

No, I am 100% positive that salary reductions will not represent a financial advantage to clubs with NT players. They will only reduce the financial disavantage, and hopefully make it at least bareble, otherwise the whole NT system will collapse.

Last edited by raonne at 4/12/2008 5:31:33 PM

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