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269298.34 in reply to 269298.33
Date: 5/2/2015 10:57:04 PM
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1on1 does train driving quicker then handling. And often players start with higher driving.
The question was a build if you can spend points however you like.


As for offence. There is on obvious offence atm. The game has altered to make it not so dominate and is heading towards that. As for which ones are effective it all comes down to what players you have in the team. No use trying motion unless you decent passing on every player. No use doing RnG unless you have very good shotters in most positions. Can go on.

Some of them just plan suck.

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Date: 5/3/2015 1:13:36 AM
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It's plain to me who I'd like to run the NT. Someone who is familiar with the up and coming NT players and has had previous contact with the managers should make everything run smoother. Not to say that I'm doubting rusty's ability as a manager. Anyone who has made it to the top league in their country demands a certain respect.

I'd like to ask a question to both of you and it doesn't involve SF's.
The Australian user base has died down over the last few seasons and we no longer have an active Div IV, which means there will be fewer high potential draftees and therefore less potential NT players. What plans do you have in place to make the most of the limited potential NT players?

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Date: 5/3/2015 2:36:51 AM
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Well this is a big issue. When I started there were lots of teams in Div IV. And the lower pool of players is a issue. Thankfully most the experince managers understand this and try and buy any good potential players.
When I ran the 21NT I would at the end of the season send the NT manager a list of players in the squad who had the potential to make the NT to add to there list for players to follow. The NT manager should always keep an eye on those players as they are limited. I would hope with my experiance working with whitewind while he was my assitant during this time will help this process along.

It is pleasing to see more of our NT team are now based in Australia. Scoggins for one is the sort of player who can become a rental and never be in good game shape. Thankfully whitewind got hold of him and he has be a major part in him winning Div II and then ABBL in his first season. Going back to Whitebeard's time there has been a push for the importance of our good players being run by our good managers. I would hope that I could play a part in making this happen effectively.

We do not have the players we can just afford to waste. Even keeping an eye on teams who have them to make sure they do not go bot is an important part fo the 21NT and also the NT if over 21. But thankfully a decent 22 year old should not disappear. Even this morning in an other thread someone suggested some teams in their league might go bot and ww asked if there was anyone that would be worth saving. I had a few mins so went and had a quick look and checked there were none.


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Date: 5/3/2015 3:38:28 AM
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2 of my top 10 players have handling higher then driving. And 2 have the same.
1 of the two higher is old and lost driving a bit.
Those who have driving higher seem to be from 1 to 4 higher.
It's not always but rather common for handling to be a bit lower.

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269298.39 in reply to 269298.37
Date: 5/3/2015 3:41:21 AM
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Also just looked at the 11 SF being tracked in NT federation 7 of them have higher driving then handling.
I think very few people train handling and allow the effect of other training to raise it.

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269298.41 in reply to 269298.36
Date: 5/3/2015 3:50:33 AM
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Dire's influence paved the way for me. But I saw a major problem with the team at that time with poor gameshape management by bad managers who were good trainers. No matter how well trained, they would forever remain useless in poor gameshape even ignoring my pleas. I would never bring them into the team unless in desperate times. So I decided to take matters into my own hand and have national players myself and also letting other managers know the benefits of merchandise.

Now I see more and more teams run pure Aussie or have Aussies as their best few players and I hope this culture continues especially with our largest roadblock, the Chinese national team, who have continuously manufacture top quality national players with their superior numbers over the years. :)

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Date: 5/3/2015 5:04:46 AM
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Well said. The most important thing is having our top managers having these aussie NT players on their teams and in tip top gameshape every week.

Nothing more fustrating than having NT players in poor gameshape because of neglect. I'll imagine it'll be doubly fustrating for the NT manager.

I believe mickyster has tried to tackle this problem by setting up federations and proactively getting many aussie managers to train home grown players.


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Date: 5/3/2015 6:44:00 AM
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A great example of Aussie managers now running with local talent is the ABBL last season, where every player that logged a vote for season MVP was Australian. Without looking, I'd guess that's the first time it's ever happened?

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