There are some ideas being floated around in here that will get lost, so if you have a different suggestion, post it in the Suggestions forum. This includes Utopias, colleges, women's leagues, etc. None of those will be happening if this change is implemented, so there's no need to mention your support of them in this thread. They are irrelevant distractions.
To be fair, the "utopia" suggestion is very similar to the idea being proposed. Instead of choosing a country of your choice for your second team, you're forced into a "BB Nation." All 11 restrictions that Marin outlined in his first post still apply, all the "pros" he listed in his second post still apply, and I believe it solves some of the "cons" as well. It's definitely not different enough to not warrant discussion. In fact, Marin even said "It's a valid proposition and should be considered in the conclusion." in this post (
(254079.205)). I will agree on the youth league suggestions being irrelevant.
I keep hearing all these fears of rampant unchecked cheating. I honestly think this change would reduce cheating because BB would have mechanisms to prevent using the two teams in any combination effort.
I can not see how creating a second team could ever reduce cheating from the current game. Not increase it, maybe, but definitely won't reduce it.
But I am actually curious what exact cheating people think is going on now and how this proposal will add/subtract from it. Because other than occasionally seeing a team overpay for another team's players (which I have reported and seen both teams frozen shortly thereafter), I can't really envision what these fears are all about.
There are two factors that contribute to this. First, acquiring a second team in a country of your choice means you might be able to get in to a D2 in a micronation with a few bots. Leagues with constant turnover and lots of bots are pretty easy to sit in and bank some cash. And secondly, even though you have all this cash, what is your incentive to use it? You can't get to the B3, and is winning a micronation league title going to be a huge incentive? For some, sure. For others, probably not. So now you've got all this cash, you can't train your own country's NT players, and you're more interested in your first team winning, or your country's NT winning, than this second team. Here's some of the things you're allowed to do:
None of these are "cheating" per se, but they certainly wouldn't be considered "fair play." And I don't see any plausible restrictions to prevent them.
1. Bid up the players your D3 league mates are bidding on with your second team. You've got all this cash and care more about your first team. Are they going to implement a restriction that if anyone from your DIII.9 ever bids on a guy your second team isn't allowed to buy him? That seems harsh and kind of allows a team to "call dibs" on a guy so you can't buy him.
2. Spend all the money buying up another country's best prospects and not training them. Are they going to implement a restriction that forces you to train players? A coordinated effort by 3 people raking cash in micronations can make a big dent in a national team.
3. Smaller national teams rely on players that won't sell for 1mil. Second teams can just buy up these guys from other countries and fire them. No on buys them for 1mil, and they're retired.
A "BB-Nation" solves all of these issues.