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From: Ko Phyo

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Date: 5/17/2012 4:08:33 AM
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Nice post bro Audi*,
I really like this post.

I wanna say somethings....

6)If you look at our div II. Div II.1 are the toughest league, see how many SG NT player are in there, everyone is stuck there as there is our mini SBBL. If for *example*, flyersonic willing to train that kind of player while training his peh as well, how you expect him to survive in the league? As season goes, Peh salary will be increasing, how is he going to earn money via income to build up a team to win the title to get promoted when there are team like SHP, who dont train SG player and build such strong team.

7) One thing is, Look at msia, how many user do you guys have? How many team does communicate with the nation via forum? For SG, as you can see, who are those people chatting in forum? It's always the same few people, while the rest of the team, Most team are just logging in, to reply mail that Ben and other scout send, and doing other setting for training and match. They are not really completing. This will harm league income.


This situation is need to talk about LA-Terfu question #2. But in here i say about for my point of view, is not for answer question #2.

I already post in other forum. We have a limit. What you want to do and what you want to be. That's why so many managers and so many styles. I also thinking about SHP style. Actualy I thinking about EBC rank 1 in Singapore. STN I difficult to release my 2 SG rosters. whatever they improve or not I will use a lot of money for trainer and this 2 trainee. If I will sell I will sure lost money, 2nd things some of the games and title were lost because of training plan. Last season I lost one of my back up SG because of economy. After that I lost my team balance also. So I hope managing skill is need to control of balance.
One of the interesting thing in this game is training plan. Because most of the manager games of sport you can train all the position. here only can train some position and also maintain limit of training time.
In Singapore League most of the teams are training Singapore rosters. But they have the limit. May be about 30 teams managers in SG Leagues are training the SG rosters. Some are training for senior team, some are training for junior team. So National Team manager are difficult to discuss for National team rosters, what skill he want for each roster. Because the trainer side have their situation. Staff budget, roster salary, quantity of trainee, and maintain for their team success. That's why this job is very difficult. Actually I thinks about 20 managers are take care of their training plans. But difficult to find who will train their trainee all the way for Senior National Team. Actually lvl 4 trainer is not enough for national team rosters, lvl 5 trainer is really expensive. Finally I wanna say is National team manager is really big challenge. Must need to work together.

Ko Phyo
From: Audi*

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Date: 5/17/2012 6:13:34 AM
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My management skill is up to my fellow mates to analyze and rate. For what I have done, prove is there. I'm more on a type I do it with action to prove rather than being talking giving away so many info. Some people are born to be good talker but what happen when they hands on? They are bad, totally bad.

I don't dunno what make u say we dint put effort in our community, at least Singapore is not doing some dirty move, unlike some bigger country, like creating team to hold some monster

Well, I dint say don't do it? And I'm not blaming anything

And I did say, it's just an idea, and it's not a must to assign, while i will still discuss with the manager and management of sg, so I dunno y you are so against it, unless you are one of our management member? But I see not, cos you are Malaysian u21 manager. I'm glad that u are willing to help, but the way u talk in here, is like you are challenging to be u21 SG. And one thing is, my way of training guards for Singapore has already prove, so my training knowledge is there just that is different with you, it's like everyone has their own way of handling, nothing is wrong, it's all about how to improve.

About personal gain, if I really wan personal gain, what for I put in effort in truing YJS and SQX? I could long ago purchase other player and fight my way to sbbl. And I believe community of Singapore, are willing to help Sg,

Yes, there are many way to enjoy bb, but personally, I don't feel MBBA is fun, the challenge is not there, the old same 2 winner are there while what are other people doing? Training players? Don't fully seem like.. But in sbbl, we are not only just want to win sbbl, sg cup or b3. We are concern about or national team as well. That make the fun of Singapore, it's so challenging. If purely training player without challenge for any title might as well call bot? Cos those team are just training player like dead.

And well, I just saw your post in ur u21, I just realise, how much effort ur community had put in for this election, maybe like what u say, they are all concern about training player, perhaps are most of the club control by the same few manager? And also, seem like the way u handle u21 is not good, look at ur popularity.
It's still the same I wanna say, differen country has different way of culture for playing and etc...

Last edited by Audi* at 5/17/2012 6:27:10 AM

From: Audi*

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Date: 5/17/2012 10:03:46 PM
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To make to clear, I'm not doing personal, nation attacking or accusing of any body. I'm just trying to talk a logic.
To answer your so call misunderstanding btw us. For me, I still stick to the same reason, it's culture issue, the way we talk and behave is different. For example: it's just like how always play basketball in real life. Usually playing with Singaporean and Philippino, everything is fine, the way we play is very same. But when some people from china: they tend to put blame in other, saying this and that while they themselves are making the mistake, while Malaysian: the way they play is so contact, trying eat we Singaporean due to their ability of jumping and strength in body, so we Singaporean of course will play back contact, while they will feel we are looking for trouble, trying to fight while the way they def us, is almost can cause player to get injured Or they will just keep on shouting foul when they are the one who bang onto us.

Replying your question:
1) true, but u say it indirectly? Not only to me, including the rest of the election member. For example of me: you said that I have no basic? Well, being able to manage u21, one of the few main thing is able to help out in training, So if you say I have no basic - meaning?

2/3) it's not we Singaporean dint put in effort, look at Eric, he does go to other div leagues to talk and the lifestyle in singapore is different, I dunno if you does read up news, singapore is one of the few country that are on high living expenses, lots of people don't even have enough time to sleep, let alone talking about playing game. And some/most bosses in Singapore are different, expecting all working to work and work, caught playing game or personal stuff during office hour may get warning letter. So if you taking about how to convince managers (local/foreign) to train players earlier,

40% of BB users might be pranksters types, means they won't cooperative, some of them might just buy your trainee and put it at the end of your bench .. (even how hard you convince him, it's the same).

So, it is a 50-50 chance on what direction the SGP trainees are landed into... the only thing to control this ... is to advice local managers to buy these trainees, but HOWEVER it's back to the previous paragraph ... 1. not all users wanted to cooperative , 2. we have only 70 teams (perhaps 40-50teams in coming 2 weeks).

And if you say you guys already have team in malaysia, that are camping in bb just to get ready to bid your NT player to save them? Then what's the point of selling them in the first case? And since you guys are afraid of other player sabo, might as well announce to the world of buzzerbeater, telling all manager that malaysian is not for sales. Malaysian is only to be played in malaysia league? If this is the case, might as well ask buzzerbeater create a server for you guys, name as MBB-malaysia buzzerbeater?
Yes, there are lots of trader, some people does trade but they does have intention of using the player. for me, I feel *it is indirectly against the rule of buzzerbeater that create team just to play with the fund* it's quite selfish though. "no offend there"

4) nah, it's okay for that, we all prefer to have some competitive and fun game while training player, that bring the challenge and excitement, instead of just being "no-life"

5) people active can be alot of way, technology is so high tech, don't have to just chat via bb sg forum. FYI: phone SMS/whatsapp, email, fb, msn, and etc... Lots of way.

Next, base on what you said earlier and the rating of the voter, it's the same reply from me, about the life in Singapore.


Last edited by Audi* at 5/17/2012 10:12:27 PM

From: Audi*

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Date: 5/17/2012 10:44:27 PM
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I get what you by mean, and I know u meant well but well it's about the way you say thing, it seem like it attacking people.

And on my advice, try not to look too much in the past, I know you have great achievement in the past but still the standard of the game btw and and the past is different.

Cheers!

Regards
Audi*

From: Audi*

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Date: 5/18/2012 12:07:01 AM
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COme on dude. what you know is there are so many different type of people. those video game you say, are those ps3, D3, which people are really hype about, for this kind of game, not really that popular, and do remember one thing, the population. One big thing, Housing is one of the most important thing, how can you dont include housing? Go ahead and check with all your singaporean friends, how high is the expenses? it is worse when come to housing, how much does a flat in malaysia cost? and go ahead do online research on singapore housing pricing. Or maybe you can go ahead and check on the car pricing, how hard are we going to work to pay for car, flat and for some people even their children education fees.

Oh, so you are trying to say that we singaporean are not smart enough to do all this precautions? seem like it's more or less of a kind of attacking.

come on, you wrote your part of your history not only here, you write it in your national election speech. aint ths looking back at the past? I dont have to tell your community as i can see through your u21 rating. it's only 65%? meaning quite a number of people dont like the way you talk or handle things. this is real sad. Cause i would wsh i could help, but i dont see how to, since you said that you are so "great' and you only get 65%.

Well perhaps, i think you are too bored in malaysia forum? Issit no one willing to talk to you thats why you came here to find people and talk? Maybe you would wish to talk in other forum of singapore rather than here? i would gladly welcome you to have a chit chat have fun at other post.. As here is debate forum are more for voter or challangers and you are none of it. talking to you, making you agree on blah blah blah, we still don't get a extra vote.

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