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I thought the STH bumps season 1-3 winners got was outrageous. Giving a team that was good enough to win the title a ~20%-40%+ revenue advantage over the next best team(s) is a huge competitive advantage. A few points either way in a SF (see both SF in the NBBA's great 8 the last two years), is not very much difference to give the winner such a huge gain.

Of course, that was a bug, but I think it would have been better for them to give at least a modest bonus in STH. Despite winning last season, i'd prefer no STH bonus to a huge bonus.

I agree about the B3 complaints. Of the 5 teams from the US in the B3, one was knocked out in the first round, another was knocked out of the US tourney in the first round, and two others have started the league 1-4 and 2-3.

Anyway, it's just my opinion, that champions deserve to be rewarded, and that any complaints about the B3 are inconceivable.

The B3 is an awesome tournament

Seconded.

You do get an advantage. this game is based on money and training which turns into money.

The fact remains - as long as you are in the NBBA you have an opportunity to play in B3. As long as you are in the cup you have an opportunity. Thats all good and fine.

Are you kidding me? Did you see my first post? This is a forum to talk about game elements. I stated this was not a whinning post, just wanted to hear more about the advantage the rich teams (primarily teams who have been playing since the game started) are given more. It's just sad more things are being done for the 10% upper levels and not the 90% who are the people who really make this game go.

What about the day traders? They earned their money didn't they? Yet their cash flow was cut.

We are not talking about a little cash here buddy. You need check the revenue streams to understand what I am talking about. You can find out some in this post.

Given that Man U is the defined division they are in no. Any other competitions are open to the entire region and only the strong survive. That said - yes I do think there are some 2nd league english teams complaining about the extra benefits Man U gets. They also have an established governing body that regulates and maintains a level playing field. They also have a level playing field that allows all the teams access to the same revenue streams and they all play in the same stadiums. Not to read in a post (not the rules mind you) Teams you are competiting against gain extra revenue just because.

Could you take a step back and put yourself in the shoes of someone who is starting to play this game in the last season or 2 versus talking like someone who is sitting in the top division?

I was under the impression the added revenue from games was the bonus..... has that changed?

as long as you are in the NBBA you have an opportunity to play in B3

an extra opportunity to get into the B3, 15/16 teams will disagree that being in the NBBA gets you some kind of auto-bid.

You continue to ignore the challenge of B3 on top of needing to do well in the NBBA (or other competitive D.1), and avoid getting picked off in the cup. Both the league/country cup will likely provide more revenue for a top team anyways.

Sure, but the winner of the top division (that would be the NBBA) gets an entry. If they can't beat you 2 out of 3 after running the gauntlet, well the higher level or revenue gained should compensate enough to maintain the level needed up there.

I understand the challenge and am not questioning the level of effort it would take. More so to the point there are other factors that are impacted here that shouldnt be.

That said, you have the arena size, players and money to address those issues a lot more effectively than someone like me.

Could you take a step back and put yourself in the shoes of someone who is starting to play this game in the last season or 2 versus talking like someone who is sitting in the top division?

I was under the impression the added revenue from games was the bonus..... has that changed?

I know exactly what the whole picture is. I've started on 5th division on HT and climbed my way up. Teams in the 1st division are the best teams, and the champion is the best among those (at least in that season) and for that it deserves to be rewarded.

Teams from higher divisions are better than teams from lower division and deserve to get the profit from this. The ones that are not better will drop and the ones below that are good will move up. It's the natural way of things. Here in BB we have several examples. Look at the Springfiled Drunkers, that started in the 3rd division in Italy and climbed all the way up to the Italian National League Title.

There are no excuses. And no complaints about B3 are reasonable.

Well, on the plus side, my additional income the last two games was a huge $ 200'000 (for both games), I probably got 2 1/2 - 3 additional Trainingsessions (Training 2 Positions, e.g. C, PF), I think that amounts to about one pop for one player...

On the negative side, my Starting SF got injured for 2 weeks (without buying a new player, I'm either out or the minutes for the others accumulate - meaning bad form), I have kept 2-3 players I would otherwise have sold (additional salary around $40'000).

Result: Gained $ 160'000 - Lost one key player for at least 4 league games, got 1 additional Pop.

So yes, I have made a bit of added revenue. But I can't see that this is giving me any huge advantage in my league.

And YES, I think I have earned it, the fun of playing B3.

If you had to buy additional players for B3, then you might well be looking at an economic loss instead of a small gain (160000 is not that much).

I do not think as B3 as a moneymaker, only for the top teams.