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@HTG Ha, knew it was Ferguson before even clicking the link. Bballin has been ecstatic about Fergie's progress with Sparky since he got him at age 22. By then he was already trained up as a U21 player.

@Fresh Yes, very good points. However, I don't think U21 coach and GM of a country should get their roles mixed up. U21 is to put the best lineup they can on the court. And I'm not recommending L6's to every single manager. If a team is in D3 and has the #27 guard with only per allstar potential, 99% of the time I'm saying to get L4 max and linking them to Rip's BB guide and the better training threads on the forum.

Last edited by Kumiko (CAN U21) at 12/27/2013 6:21:30 PM

I don't care about past results; I know Kumiko can do much better than any other candidate. Also, the results have been there. Canada U21's ranking has improved since she's been running the team, and Season 24 was the U21's best season since Season 12.

Once again
I never wrote anything negative about the U21 coach but
You say you don't care about past results but then use the ones you like
In any sports league anywhere, if the team had a record like last season's Canada U21,
The coach and general manager would be on thin ice
and another season as such would surely include a firing.
Perhaps a championship a season before that might help that person hang on a bit longer...
Those are indisputable facts even if those people were the brightest, hardest workers on the planet.
BTW many of those fired people go on to bigger and better things given better talent at the next stop.
That's just the way it is!

Now I want all of you to think real hard on this one.
Take your current real life favourite sports team.
Give them the pro rated record of Canada's U21 last season
and tell me what you would be saying about team management.
"I don't care about past results" would not be at the top of the list

Last edited by Headless T Gunner at 12/27/2013 9:57:02 AM

You fail to see that BB is NOT like real sports. While it is a sports simulator the similarities stop there. Sure in the real world managers are hired to be fired, but this is a poor comparison. In the real sports world not one of us would be qualified to run a team, hence the reason we all enjoy it as much as we do.

The results of the U21 team cannot only be measured by the wins and loses. Especially in a season like last season with a hopeless crop of players. In order to measure success of this position you must consider a bunch of factors including scouting and the creation of a player data base, training advice, mentorship, communication with other managers etc. when looking at these factors the decision is easy, and until Kumiko decides to step down the position is rightfully hers.

Sparky is a few years away from being a manager but appears to be heading down the right path. I would suggest getting him more involved with the NT which means participating on the off site. The information and discussion there is very valuable and cannot be found here.

Question
Why is the U21 manager of another country poking around here?

Question
Why is the U21 manager of another country poking around here?

I don't really think that was called for. I don't want this forum sidetrack from the debates (again), but Morwood is an active member of the Canadian community and was asking a question to the candidates to help make a decision on their vote, and that of others.

And you are correct on just about every count
but this was for a debate, so the devil's advocate
and the Spark's dad has spoken

Sparky however is forbidden to sign up for the off site until age 13
He doesn't even have an email account

Let's also keep in mind that the hard work that Kumiko has put in does not guarantee a walk through the door of the manager's office.
To assume that nobody else could run the program better just because she's done a good job is totalitarian in concept

Carry on

You're ALL doing good jobs

Last edited by Headless T Gunner at 12/27/2013 11:20:14 AM