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I still disagree that the point differential system is unfair as is. I don't see another way to determine who wins record ties since series are always at home for each team. The same logic applies. The Bulls have a way of aggravating alot of people and people seem to think they have a better shot of beating him either home or away, hence less punting and a lower point differential.

The cookie jar comment was what I thought a good natured jab. Sorry you thought it was so ridiculous. For the record I didn't know many teams used a normal enthusiasm on an away game they expected to lose. I wasn't trying to piss on you, just use an example I have firsthand knowledge of. Sorry, that seems to have offended you. I'll be sure to file a hurt feeling report with the nearest GM I can find.

Teams all are playing the same game with the same rules. I don't see how it's unfair when thats the case.

I don't see how it's unfair when thats the case.

I wouldn't say it's unfair, but maybe there's better alternatives. Some teams are on the lucky side of a thrown game while some others aren't. Maybe using head-to-head would be a better option.

Still won't change the fact that to succeed in the long run you need to focus more on things like enthus/GS/training, instead of actual in-game lineups and tactics.

Everything's pretty much already been said, but I just wanted to say I completely agree that head-to-head should be the first tiebreaker. It makes far more sense than overall PD. I mean what kind of logic is "Is Team A better than Team B? Well, forget that they beat them twice, he lost by 75 to Team C a while back, so they're clearly not better."

Well your correct about no one being nice and throwing games but I do know of a couple times where people didn't necessarily take it easy out of spite with the guy.

The system isn't perfect as far as home court but its not easy to make changes to improve it. If they correct the point differential issue whats the next gripe? Who plays tough teams from the other conference on the road vs at home? What if a star player for a team is injured for the head to head game but has such a great impact on the rest of the games that one team clearly had a better season?

I can see the issue with it but I come back to the fact that everyone is playing with the same rules.

As for the game being about lineups and tactics, in close games I think you still see that have quite a bit of importance.

The blow out rule should probably be looked at as well as the last minute. These were both changes to make the game more accuratley reflect the NBA but the system used for keeping track of who is seeded top is not. Perhaps endgame stuff such as fouling when down and sitting the starters at a certain point should be added to the tactical page rather than being a default setting. It would make it so if it backfired one way or the other the only person you had to blame was yourself.

Something that would be fun in my opinion is in case of a tie at the end of the season, an arcade style playoff on neutral courts would be a blast. I can't imagine it would be impossible to code in and if a week of either NT or U21 matches had to be postponed I would think the excitement it would generate every season would be worth it.

Something that would be fun in my opinion is in case of a tie at the end of the season, an arcade style playoff on neutral courts would be a blast. I can't imagine it would be impossible to code in and if a week of either NT or U21 matches had to be postponed I would think the excitement it would generate every season would be worth it.

I like this idea, although simply changing the Tie-Breaker rules to Head-to-Head would be sufficient. It would even make some regular season games more important, knowing that you may need to win to ensure a playoff spot against someone with a similar record.

Well, since I seemed to have started a sh#$ storm by throwing the game against ICE, I thought I should explain to you why I did it, and you can explain why my thinking is wrong.

1. I am the worst team in the NBBA stats wise as someone pointed out at the start of this season. I have managed to get into 4 place by scouting, managing game shape (except CARLOS because I can't figure out how to train small forwards), and enthus. I knew I would lose to ICE because I can't match up with his team--I did scout him. I decided to go for the cup win instead. I will be able to TIE tomorrow for more enthus and play my next home game for the win. Also, I was able to get 48 minutes for training for two of my players.

2. I am concentrating on staying in the cup as long as possible--that means that I will sacrifice league games that I can't possibly win to stay in the cup where I usually face inferior or more equal opponents. Enthus from TIED games helps a lot here.

3. I need training minutes. If the choice is to throw a game that I really have no chance of winning to get those minutes, then that's what I will do.

4. I think game shape plays a huge role in winning. The only reason I even promoted in Hobo's screwed up his game shape. I TIED at his place then played two CT to win. His players were better but mine were in better game shape.

All in all, I think I have a decent strategy and I have a good chance of not demoting. I welcome feedback to this approach if anyone has better ideas.

The Bulls have a way of aggravating alot of people and people seem to think they have a better shot of beating him either home or away, hence less punting and a lower point differential.

I like to think that I entertain a lot of people, while aggravating a few. It's a trade off I'm willing to make.

And I don't think your example has ever really come up in League play (besides maybe you and DFC for all I know). It has however come up in Cup play, when I visit an opponents forum and all of a sudden they want to take down the big dog. I seem to remember this being the case when you were a little(r) puppy.

Do you realize there's a (very small) chance that we'll play each other 3 times next week?