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76799.3 in reply to 76799.2
Date: 2/25/2009 1:23:47 PM
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What makes it unfair?

the fact that:
1- you can very easily tie and rise your enthusiasm
2- you can play your backups and keep all your starters for the league.
3- you can train more easily as you already know you'll have garbage time.

In short, luck determines how successful your team is :)

I ask you a question :)
What's the fun in having bots playing against each other?

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76799.4 in reply to 76799.3
Date: 2/25/2009 1:33:13 PM
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1- you can very easily tie and rise your enthusiasm
2- you can play your backups and keep all your starters for the league.


In short, luck determines how successful your team is :)

For the record - I agree with that. (I benefited last season, this one I would probably just collect flags)

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76799.5 in reply to 76799.3
Date: 2/25/2009 1:42:19 PM
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What makes it unfair?

the fact that:
1- you can very easily tie and rise your enthusiasm
2- you can play your backups and keep all your starters for the league.
3- you can train more easily as you already know you'll have garbage time.

In short, luck determines how successful your team is :)

I ask you a question :)
What's the fun in having bots playing against each other?


So you'd prefer that teams not have abilities 1-3? Seems like you'd be happy with, for instance, a II team playing a II team then, no?

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76799.6 in reply to 76799.3
Date: 2/25/2009 2:08:59 PM
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1- you can very easily tie and rise your enthusiasm
2- you can play your backups and keep all your starters for the league.
3- you can train more easily as you already know you'll have garbage time.

Is it just me, or do these 3 not even apply to bot v bot games? Surely your argument is that you don't want any player v bot games, so bot v bot games are in fact the best solution for you, no?

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76799.7 in reply to 76799.6
Date: 2/25/2009 2:14:35 PM
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He wants bots to be out of competition completely as soon as possible. Bot vs. bot equals a bot in next round.

I understand him, this way many teams would have a chance to manage enthussiasm in th first round agaisnt bot in first week of season no matter how harsh the draw would be in next rounds.

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76799.9 in reply to 76799.7
Date: 2/25/2009 3:49:33 PM
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He wants bots to be out of competition completely as soon as possible. Bot vs. bot equals a bot in next round.

I understand him, this way many teams would have a chance to manage enthussiasm in th first round agaisnt bot in first week of season no matter how harsh the draw would be in next rounds.


in this case delete home court in cup to, or play after the ranking like ht ;)

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76799.10 in reply to 76799.9
Date: 2/25/2009 3:54:18 PM
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I'm not the inciator don't reply to me:) I don't think current cup system is great but it is bearable, although I think that enthusism thing is a big flaw.

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76799.11 in reply to 76799.9
Date: 2/25/2009 5:56:09 PM
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He wants bots to be out of competition completely as soon as possible. Bot vs. bot equals a bot in next round.

exactly :)
In order to allow all active users to play the cup there are plenty of bots too. A lucky team will get a bot in the first 3-4 (even 5) rounds, an unlucky team will get real users... and if these two teams have to compete in the same league this situation creates a big disparity.

in this case delete home court in cup to, or play after the ranking like ht ;)

no, because the point is that we (I guess the BBs as well) want to give a chance to small(er) teams to go further in the cup.
I don't want to penalize small teams, I just want to penalize bots :)


Last edited by Newton07 at 2/25/2009 5:56:32 PM

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76799.12 in reply to 76799.1
Date: 2/26/2009 12:41:45 PM
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I agree completely. Unfortunately the current design of the cup makes it quite uniinterresting and winning the cup (especially in small countries like Sweden) is anything but prestigious which is sad.

Two seasons ago I was lucky with the draw and could advance to the semifinals playing TIE in every game. This ment that I had a big advantage in the league just because of some luck in the drawing.

Currently the primary reason to stay in the cup for me is to be able to TIE and build enthusiasm for the league games (I know a lot others that feel the same). The cup in itself is pretty meaningless.

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76799.13 in reply to 76799.1
Date: 2/26/2009 1:29:24 PM
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This season in Italy there is a II vs. II and at least 4 II vs. III games in the first cup round.
On the other hand it is quite common to have bots still in the 4th-5th round.

My suggestion is to forbid bot vs. bot games, so that the big majority of them won't reach the second round and the competition will be fairer for everybody :)


I have II vs.II in the first round and my cup is already over. It's totally unfair - their should be "pools" like in some football competition for example pool1 teams from I and II playing against pool2 - teams from IV and V.

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