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145510.3 in reply to 145510.2
Date: 6/2/2010 12:47:26 AM
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Yeah. My PG has prominent handling and proficient passing too and yet he still had 7 to's!

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145510.4 in reply to 145510.1
Date: 6/2/2010 1:08:37 AM
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I think that his rebounding is actually a lot higher than yours. However, because he is playing a FCP, that means that when he is defending it is harder for him to get rebounds. However, when he is attacking, his high rebounding skill will beat you which is why he gets so many offensive rebounds and not many defensive rebounds.

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145510.5 in reply to 145510.4
Date: 6/2/2010 5:07:44 AM
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I´d like to ask something about rebounding as well:
My overall team ratings in rebounding are quite low, however my PF and C are among the league leaders in rebounding. The rest of my team (PG, SG and SF) pretty much suck on rebounding (atrocious to awful).
Is it worth getting up the rebounding skills of my big men? Does it help me getting better rebounding stats overall? Or is it more a problem of my backcourt and it wouldn´t really help getting my frontcourt even more competitive in rebounding?

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145510.6 in reply to 145510.5
Date: 6/2/2010 5:23:40 AM
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Rebounding: Center and power forward weighted heavily, small forward somewhat heavily, both guards medium.

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145510.7 in reply to 145510.6
Date: 6/2/2010 8:40:02 AM
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Rebounding: Center and power forward weighted heavily, small forward somewhat heavily, both guards medium.


Another excellent example of the poor quality of the Game Manual. It is logically impossible for the above to be true. Who is weighted below medium so that the heavy weights and mediums can be averaged to 1? It sounds like they were listening to Garrison Keillor when they wrote this -- "Lake Woebegone, where all the children are above average."


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145510.8 in reply to 145510.7
Date: 6/2/2010 9:30:32 AM
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It would be useful for you to understand what this is referring to. These "weights" are how the team rating of rebounding is determined. There is no need for the number to be one. It just means that the skills taken into account to create the rating which shows up on the box score of your page use this formula: (just an example- not anywhere near what the actual formula is) PGx + SGx + SF(x+y) + PF(x+y+z) + C(x+y+z). The total skills that are factored into the team rating are then modified by position, with the C and PF modifier being greater than the Sf which is greater still than the guards. Or at least that's how I understand it.

Even in your anecdote, all the children in Lake Wobegone could be above average if all the children in St. Olaf are below average.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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145510.9 in reply to 145510.8
Date: 6/2/2010 10:54:22 AM
Phoenix_Suns
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What seems to be more useful:
Push the rebounding skills from 12/13 to 15/16 for the frontcourt or bring up the rebounding skills for the SF/ G from 1/2/3 to 5/6/7?
That´s the decision I have to make. Anyway: I need to get become more competitive in rebounding.

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145510.10 in reply to 145510.9
Date: 6/2/2010 11:15:58 AM
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I think that depends on the competition in your league. If most of the other big men in the league are at 15/16, I would try to get your big men up, because they tend to see the majority of rebounds (although not always true- check out GM-Josef Ka's team when his ubercenter play pg- 20+ boards from the PG position!) Having said that, I wouldn't play a SF that had less than 8 RB and I like my guards to have at least 5.

I guess I would try to get my big guys up first,though.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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145510.11 in reply to 145510.9
Date: 6/2/2010 12:11:58 PM
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I would recommend bringing up the rebounding of your other players. Rebounding is done on a player vs. player basis. If on a given play your PG has a lower REB than the opponent, their PG has a greater chance of getting a rebound if the ball comes to them. Just because your player has the highest rebounding skill doesn't mean all rebounds will come to them. It just means they will get more of the rebounds that come their way.

At least that's how I see it. I try to get players with at least respectable rebounding and I lead my league in REBs.

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145510.13 in reply to 145510.12
Date: 6/2/2010 3:16:04 PM
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Thanks Naker-Virus and GM-KOZ.

I think you both hit it right on the nail. I knew the TIE could be the problem, but then why doesn't reflect it in the ratings? I mean, if he is going to out rebound me because of my TIE, then I should lose rebounding in the ratings because of my TIE.

But the idea because of the FCP, makes total sense. It would not have affected his rebounding when on offense, but would have on defense...thus a ratings gap.

I'll have to remember that the next time I play a FCP.

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