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Depuis quand Dusse devient Saint ? (c'est nouveau, ça ??)

(for non-francophones, don't bother my sentence, it's a franco-french philosophical question.

;)

are WiMaOlCa or Heywood Big Dogs ready to pull off one of the biggest upset wins of the Season 1?

be careful to Saint Jean Claude, famous french who said : forget that you have no chance, go ahead, one never knows, on a misunderstanding it can work :D

sometime, it works, we will see L:)

(it's difficult to translate this mindset,I hope it's understood)

Saint Jean Claude --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syJCMxz15KU

I think there always remains a chance, (unless of course we're talking about, say $900K roster vs. $50K roster, in which case the chance becomes very close to 0) and I, if someone, will encourage everyone to keep on believing on their chances even if they're underdogs. :)

As I've mentioned earlier, of course as a role of HGL Commissioner I'm naturally a neutral manager/person, but in real life what I love almost most in many sports (including basketball) is when a huge underdog is able to cause an upset. So I guess I got hold of the spirit, that you were describing in your message... And yes, a lot is often lost in translation, especially in philosophical matters, song lyrics and poetry...

Anyway, like I said, good luck to all for Round Three (semifinal) matches - yes, of course also todays' favorites Svätý Jur Snakers and Santa Eufemia Ducks, even though usually favorites aren't that much in a need for a luck. :)

Semifinal Round (Round Three) of Playoffs didn't require an extra visit to pharmacy for re-stocking your Nitro's, as favorites Svätý Jur Snakers and Santa Eufemia Ducks were able to find ways to keep opposition within a safe distance, winning by 22 and 26 points, respectively.

So as far as last match day of HGL Season 1 is concerned, to quote my official Playoff post:

PO Round 4 (final and a bronze matches): Sunday, June 22nd, 2025:

Home team name bolded.
All games played at Official HGL match times (similar to Regular Season), in other words all matches are played (and finish approximately) simultaneously:

Final:
Rank #1 HAD vs. #2 SED [match=XXX]

Bronze:
Rank #3 HEY vs. #4 WMO [match=XXX]

So Hadár (Svätý Jur Snakers) and Deano25 (Heywood Big Dogs) are now asked to proceed with the match organizing process, and asked to add links to their own box score posts as soon as match has been accepted so that I can verify match specs, and after that I'll be able to add match links to an official playoff post (here: (326590.7).

And as usual, all the specs for the matches (match start time, home/away court balance) remain the same as during the whole Playoffs.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/16/2025 7:23:39 AM

@All HGL managers, that participate on Season 2 of HGL:

As the Season 2 of HGL is closing in fast, I have done some preliminary work in a form of roster eligibility checks of current and new HGL teams.
All teams that have currently non-eligible players on their rosters have been contacted, so that they have plenty of time to solve this before Season 2 starts.

The goal is to continue HGL with 16 teams on Season 2; more on this a bit later.

But as we are likely going to have similar amount of teams for Season 2, we can reuse the HGL schedule from Season 1, after I replace some current team names (4 teams exiting, 4 likely joining for Season 2).

So before this season, we asked HGL managers who wants to become a volunteer when making Pickup match challenges for the Regular Season.

In practice, it means that they are willing to spend more than average (in practice like 11-13) tokens when organizing Regular Season matches. For Season 1 we got this result when asking for volunteers:

Already Volunteered:
1. Wagner
2. MrJ
3. Gccsteel
4.T-Lit
5. Moneta
6. Deano25
7. Paul George
8. Chucarro

So now that MrJ, Deano 25 and Gccsteel are no longer going to be part of HGL on Season 2, who else wants to step up as a volunteer?

In optimal scenario, we'd need three more volunteers (others than those on the list already) so that we would be able to let people know approximately how many tokens they'll be using during Season 2 match organizing process.

Please note: it would be ideal if you´d be willing to volunteer again for Season 2, if you see your name on the above (Season 1) volunteers-list.



If all managers from above list will be volunteers again, we technically have enough new volunteers now that Hadár, WiMaOl and demars volunteered already (on other words, if all same managers volunteer again, that did it last time).

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Updateable list of volunteers for HGL Season 2 Pickup match organization:

1. Wagner
2. Hadár *NEW*
3. WiMaOl *NEW*
4. demars *NEW*
5. Moneta
6. Paul George
7. Chucarro

EDIT 23.6.2025: We should now have technically enough new volunteers, if :
- T-Lit would be willing/ready to be volunteers also for Season 2!?


Having said that, it's not a bad thing even if everyone would announce to be volunteers, then I'd just have more free hands to change things in schedule if totally necessary.
That´d be also positive because changing one piece in this match organization process may (or may not) change other parts of it, so I'd prefer keeping changes at 0 (or as close as zero as possible) compared to Season 1 schedule (which has proven to be functional).


Last edited by Wagner at 6/25/2025 8:32:52 AM

You can add me as a volunteer.

Thanks for volunteering, 2 new ones are still needed (who weren't volunteers on Season 1) if all Season 1 volunteers still want to remain in that same role for Season 2!

For those that are interested and/or are willing to offer their advice/opinion on this league schedule creating matter, this is part of the discussion that we had prior to Season 1 on alternative methods of creating league schedule:
(324689.508) (starting from the "Let's take your list of 8 above as a starting point." and (324689.509) (starting from the "EDIT/addition for the last message")

Mostly about those above links I meant that I´d appreciate if someone would like to take a look at/verify my theory (of manager challenging only teams that are below of them on the list) for functionality, should HGL decide to use it on some further seasons instead of using same schedule from previous season.

As mentioned, the goal on Season 2 is to reuse the league schedule from Season 1, so this is hopefully not an urgent issue.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/19/2025 12:33:03 PM

You can add me as a volunteer too ... but you just need to know that I won't be very available from June 28 to July 14, I think it is possible that the Pick up game's organization takes place during this period



Last edited by WiMaOl at 6/19/2025 2:46:38 PM

Count me in ;)

(but off 2 weeks in July (12-26)

You can add me as a volunteer too ... but you just need to know that I won't be very available from June 28 to July 14, I think it is possible that the Pick up game's organization takes place during this period

Thank you WiMaOl and demars, I added you guys to the list! Now we have 3 new volunteers, which I think should be enough of new volunteers if all other volunteers from last time agree to be volunteers again? I edited my previous post by adding your names there, but also made a list of managers of whose approval on voluntary question I'm waiting.

The thing is, I'd really prefer to use Season 1 schedule again as there's no really point in changing it (everyone will play everyone once anyway), and quite likely will use it again.

But I'd like to ask any manager that's participating to Season 2 of HGL who is low on tokens to please speak out now, so that I could possibly try to take that into account when editing a schedule for Season 2. I can't give exact promises on token usage, as number 1 thing is to get it done correctly, but if I know someone is very low on them, I'll see what I can do (hopefully that's not the case though).

Personally, I'm not low on tokens and could even "gift" them to someone if need would arise, but that's of course not possible.

As for PU match arranging time for Season 2, just as you said WiMaOl, we might be in a process of organizing during that time you're not around that much.
Unless I'm mistaken (?), a new BB regular league will start on July 12th (draft order must be sent by 6th of July, so BB season starts always on next week's Saturday, right?), so HGL Season 2 would in that case be scheduled to start on Monday July 14th (please anyone correct if I'm mistaken).

So what I could do here is to create a season box score post template with match days written in it quite soon, so that you could easily copy-paste it to your Season 2 box score posts already before your possible holidays (and would only need to send and accept match links and add match links to your basically ready box score posts when they're available - there's still some work with that, but it's still best to have the ground work done to make it as smooth as possible).

Of course those new box score posts would be then created by every manager to Season 2 Official Scores Thread, but if one is in a real hurry (or if I haven't yet established Season 2 Thread at that moment), one can use Season 1 thread as well as long as they'll eventually delete duplicates and copy-paste that post to Season 2 thread (when not in hurry/when thread is available). (Speaking of deleting, one more time: please never delete your own box score posts, they might be needed later on - only exception is if you temporarily create a post and then first transfer it to a proper Season's Thread prior to deleting that duplicate.)

But prior to getting into that, I need to verify which teams are playing for Season 2, and while the list/roster of teams for Season 2 is almost completed, I'm still finalizing/verifying few things before publishing it as a final list (only after which I can proceed to editing Season 1 schedule for Season 2 use).

I thought this was supposed to be a lot more simple second time around, but we haven't even got to the fun part yet... ;)

But in fact it really should be easier this time, but on the other hand summer holidays might cause an added layer of challenge... Well, I believe we'll get through this. Let's try to do things the same way as much as possible as during Season 1 PU match organizing process, which is already quite familiar to all of us.

Of course there might be some different requests this time (if I notice something should be done in different way), but basically it boils down to me providing a schedule, you guys carefully arranging matches on correct days and times, and myself again verifying everything, and then we're ready for Season 2.

As for PU match arranging time for Season 2, just as you said WiMaOl, we might be in a process of organizing during that time you're not around that much.
Unless I'm mistaken (?), a new BB regular league will start on July 12th (draft order must be sent by 6th of July, so BB season starts always on next week's Saturday, right?), so HGL Season 2 would in that case be scheduled to start on Monday July 14th (please anyone correct if I'm mistaken)

it's right .... i have full of tokens (92) so if you need ...

Thank you for your confirmation on my reasoning of correct HGL Season 2 starting day (14th of July, 2025)!

So based on that, I just made a new calendar (match days) for HGL Season 2, which everyone can copy-paste to their own Season 2 box score posts, that they create once Official Scores Thread for Season 2 is created. Please note, that in HGL we will not combine box score posts from different seasons, so it's better to wait until new Season 2 Thread is created by me.

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@all participating managers: you need to provide a similar kind of list (as below), a.k.a. your team's own box score post before Season 2 on Season 2 HGL Scores-thread. For new-to-HGL managers nstructions on how to easily create this is found on previous messages, (326590.42) and (326590.43).

But to put it in short, you're free to copy-paste this into your HGL Season 2 box score post (preferably when Official Season 2 Scores Thread is published, and after I've reserved about 11 first posts from that Thread for official use), and then just change your team name to replace 'WAG', and add match box score link (match number) instead of 'xxx' (at [match=xxx]) to all Regular Season matches when matches have been organized.

Eventually you'll need to keep on adding scores of the matches to your own box score posts during the whole season when matches have been played.

I'd like everyone to follow this sort of structure (in your own box score posts) to keep it easier for me to interpret. You may edit it in some ways if you want, like some of you guys have done on Season 1, but please keep all essential information in it and preferably formatting of the post relatively same (as below).


So, here are finally match days for Season 2 of HGL, and you may copy-paste everything below this sentence to your own Season 2 box score post once Season 2 Thread is created. :


Here are box score links to my HGL Season 2 matches and match scores:

RS Round 1: Monday, July14th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]
RS Round 2: Friday, July 18th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]
RS Round 3: Monday, July 21st, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]

RS Round 4: Friday, July 25th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]
RS Round 5: Monday, July 28th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]
RS Round 6: Friday, August 1st, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]

RS Round 7: Monday, August 4th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]
RS Round 8: Friday, August 8th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]
RS Round 9: Monday, August 11th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]

RS Round 10: Friday, August 15th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]
RS Round 11: Monday, August 18th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]
RS Round 12: Friday, August 22nd, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]

RS Round 13: Monday, August 25th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]
RS Round 14: Friday, August 29th, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]
RS Round 15: Monday, September 1st, 2025 WAG vs. [match=xxx]


HGL Season 1 Playoffs:
(For Playoffs: home team name bolded; home team responsible for sending match challenge)

PO Round 1 (teams ranked 5th-12th): Sunday, September 8th, 2025

PO Round 2 (quarter-finals): Sunday, September 14th, 2025

PO Round 3 (semifinals): Sunday, September 21st, 2025

PO Round 4 (championship and a bronze matches): Sunday, September 28th 2025


Abbreviations used for Playoffs scores:
AQR2 = Automatically Qualified to Round 2 of Playoffs
(this abbreviation is used by Top 4 teams of Regular Season, during First Round of Playoffs when they did not play a match)

NQP = Not Qualified to Playoffs
(teams ranked from 13th to 16th positions on Regular Season, who did not qualify for Playoffs, use this abbreviation)

*DNP* = Did Not Play/Did Not Participate (on this Playoff Round)
(teams can use this abbreviation instead of entering their score of the round, if they have not played this Round match due to losing in the previous Playoff Round, and therefore being out of this season's Playoffs permanently)