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Ok the problem is well known and it is on the list of things that need fixing.

For now it will stay like it is until the more pressing issues are dealt with.

Ok, I give you that people still are fighting the whole earth is round thing........ :)

Haha! That was pretty good - well done. :)

Ok the problem is well known and it is on the list of things that need fixing.

For now it will stay like it is until the more pressing issues are dealt with.

Fair enough.

Just as an FYI, looking through the playoffs for about 160 leagues, I found 4 forfeits. One in the championship finals, and the other three in the first round....since I can't see the depth chart screen, I have no idea why those four teams forfeited. I understand the steps taken have resolved the majority of the issues, but I hope that playoff forfeits, which should never happen, are remembered so something is done in the future.....
As old as I am, I won't forget about it!!!!!

I have seen 2 playoff forfeits and both were brand new teams who I assume had not set up their team in time.

Ok I will write my suggestion I have mentioned to the BBs here, now that you have bumped this thread Charles.

The solution to fixing this problem could be similar to the way the results are forced to be 25-0.

This forcing of numbers could be used for all of the statistics for each player.
If each player was forced to have their average statistics for that game their average then their averages would not change.

This could be applied to just the team that did not forfeit.

This forcing of numbers could be used for all of the statistics for each player.If each player was forced to have their average statistics for that game their average then their averages would not change.
This could be applied to just the team that did not forfeit.

See what happens when a great mind thinks through a problem? Great things happen, that's what.
I am a dolt. I realize that, but if JudgeNik can come up with a way to resolve the statline issues....then another of the brilliant minds of BB should be able to figure out a way to resolve the illegal lineup issue.
I really believe that. I know it's on the backburner and I've accepted that, but as one of my earlier posts mentioned, forfeits in professional basketball are plain unrealistic and I think that ultimately, a solution is needed to attempt to reduce them to rare instances......

You don't consider your 4 discovered forfeits out of 160 leagues rare? That is easily less than 1% of the games. For a game with a ton of new and clueless users, I think that's pretty good already.

The thing with the forfeits is that if someone doesn't enter a full lineup, putting random players in random positions, to fill the depth chart, is likely to be more of a risky solution than forfeiting. It is a lot less likely to have anomalies appear in user's games where they did set a full lineup.

Some guiding points for when this is worked on at the beginning of the offseason:

(1) The line which defines a forfeit should be when 2 starter positions have not been assigned players.
i.e. the team has not just sold a player just before the game and forgot to update his lineup but had been negligent enough to not have 2 starters.

(2) When only one starter player has not been set the backup should automatically fill that depth chart position when the game processed.

(3) If there are spaces in the backups and reserves section of the depth chart they are filled with players from the same position. e.g. If the reserves Center is missing the starter Center is repeated in that field.

But really this is will take a LOT longer to code than how long it took to write these paragraphs.

You don't consider your 4 discovered forfeits out of 160 leagues rare? That is easily less than 1% of the games. For a game with a ton of new and clueless users, I think that's pretty good already.

That was 4 playoff games in league #'s 1-160.....I would imagine if you looked back at ALL the games for those 160 leagues, there would be more instances of forfeits (or the "lucky fan" anomaly as it was first presented before the current remedy was put in place)....
My point with the quick research I did was that it's silly to have forfeits in the playoffs...that is just completely unrealistic...I'm not saying it's a HUGE issue for the game, but if something can be done to eliminate them altogether, that is what I would shoot for. The few ideas I've had have not been "functionally" workable, but if I'm the only one who thinks it's a problem, then I'll shut up about it. I just think it's pretty ridiculous to look at a playoff bracket, and see a 25-0 score....

Anyway, at the least, I hope the suggestion of fixing the statlines is implemented so the rare forfeit doesn't alter the individual player stat averages......