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From: Wagner

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Date: 6/4/2025 7:58:58 AM
Wagner College
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Can someone remind me who I’m meant to play in round 2? I can’t find the draw after the first week of finals. Once I know I’ll send a request to them.

Hello Deano25,
As Paul George from Rajdersi mentioned, you are playing against him on Second Round.
It is especially important to send challenge on your home court (as you are higher ranked team) and on designated official HGL match time (just as during Regular Season PU match organizing process).

As mentioned earlier, from the beginning of the Season 1 Playoffs I have kept updating an Official HGL Playoff post (here: (326590.7)), where everyone can check out their teams' next opponent, and can find out all match links (and scores, when matches have been played).

So in that sense that Playoff post is similar to those 2 Regular Season schedule/scores posts.

However, it is necessary for all teams to follow that aforementioned Official Playoff post for the duration of the whole Playoffs, with certain exceptions though:
- It's not absolutely necessary to follow it regularly after finding out you are not qualified to Playoffs at all, or
- after you lose on First or Second Round match.

Losing on Third Round (semi-final stage) guarantees you a bronze medal game, so even if you lose on Third Round you need to remember to set up a bronze match.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/4/2025 8:02:41 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/8/2025 2:44:45 PM
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It also happens to the best ;)

What also tends to happen to the best more often than not is that they tend to win, like today ;)

Speaking of that, no overtimes are played anymore (6 hours after matches started ;p), so we have final results from Second Round (quarter-finals) of Playoffs.

To quote the Official Playoff post (here: (326590.7)):

PO Round 3 (semifinals): Sunday, June 15th, 2025:

Home team name bolded.
All games played at Official HGL match times (similar to Regular Season matches), in other words all matches are played (and will finish approximately) simultaneously:

Rank #1 HAD vs. #4 WMO

Rank #2 SED vs. #3 HEY



So with results and official confirmation of next round matchups available, we're now ready to proceed in match organizing process for semifinals.
Hadár and GM-Enzo are officially responsible for sending challenges so both of you please proceed with match organizing process as soon as you see this message.

All the details when organizing matches for semifinal round and for final/bronze matches naturally remain the same for the remainder of the Season 1:
- match time remains the same (official designated HGL match time)
- match is always played on home court of better ranked team; in this case naturally on home courts of Svätý Jur Snakers and Santa Eufemia Ducks.

From: Deano25

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Date: 6/12/2025 10:54:23 AM
Heywood Big Dogs
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Just to play it safe, here is the link to this weekend's semi final game in a third space.

Ducks v Big Dogs (135018532)

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/13/2025 8:28:50 AM
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Just to play it safe, here is the link to this weekend's semi final game in a third space.

Ducks v Big Dogs (135018532)

Thanks for the link Deano. I can see it in your box score post, but I definitely appreciate playing it safe.

All Sunday June 15th, 2025 match links are now available for myself (and verified), so technically we're good to go and decide the colors of the medals that will be available for which of the remaining teams on Sunday 22nd!

So as said, all Sunday 15th match links have been added to teams' box score posts except for Santa Eufemia Ducks currently, but he has promised to take care of that (editing of his team box score post) though, so we should be all good.
Many teams have actually not complied with the requirement of editing their box score posts regularly on Season 1.

Some teams have mentioned why they haven't done it, while some haven't mentioned anything and have just not done it regularly. Nevertheless, it has been pointed out numerous times that it's not actually difficult to accomplish that editing, and also why this practice is still (and will be) in place now and in forthcoming seasons of HGL as well. Unfortunately this takes the effort of editing post from every manager, but it's not possible to accomplish such things in a Pickup match based league 100% automatically. I still consider that being a small price to pay, as we think about the return (the joy HGL hopefully also gives to you guys).

I also understand it might be easy to forget editing your post in the beginning (just as anything can be sort of difficult when you're just learning habits/rules), but I think it's also simple enough process so that if you for instance set up a reminder (on calendar/phone/whatever device) for it for few weeks, then it becomes something you'll remember to do continuously "automatically". As mentioned, this has been the first season, and we have been learning practices and I have sort of taken the softer approach due to that. On Season 2 though, I kindly ask all participating managers for instance trying to remember to set up some reminders on editing their team box score posts, if they feel it's something that they struggle to remember to do. I can assure you based on personal experience, reminders are your friends. :)

No surprise results whatsoever during HGL Playoffs (in terms of Official Regular Season Rankings, home teams winning all matches) - will this strong run of favorite teams last until the very end, or are WiMaOlCa or Heywood Big Dogs ready to pull off one of the biggest upset wins of the Season 1? We'll see that in about 2 days - good luck for the every remaining team for the semifinals!

From: WiMaOl

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Date: 6/13/2025 2:36:11 PM
WiMaOlCa
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Second Team:
Vosges Cosmopolitans BC
are WiMaOlCa or Heywood Big Dogs ready to pull off one of the biggest upset wins of the Season 1?

be careful to Saint Jean Claude, famous french who said : forget that you have no chance, go ahead, one never knows, on a misunderstanding it can work

sometime, it works, we will see

(it's difficult to translate this mindset,I hope it's understood)

Saint Jean Claude --> (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syJCMxz15KU)



Last edited by WiMaOl at 6/13/2025 2:36:57 PM

From: demars

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Date: 6/14/2025 5:24:23 AM
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Depuis quand Dusse devient Saint ? (c'est nouveau, ça ??)

(for non-francophones, don't bother my sentence, it's a franco-french philosophical question.

;)

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/15/2025 7:29:42 AM
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are WiMaOlCa or Heywood Big Dogs ready to pull off one of the biggest upset wins of the Season 1?

be careful to Saint Jean Claude, famous french who said : forget that you have no chance, go ahead, one never knows, on a misunderstanding it can work :D

sometime, it works, we will see L:)

(it's difficult to translate this mindset,I hope it's understood)

Saint Jean Claude --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syJCMxz15KU


I think there always remains a chance, (unless of course we're talking about, say $900K roster vs. $50K roster, in which case the chance becomes very close to 0) and I, if someone, will encourage everyone to keep on believing on their chances even if they're underdogs. :)

As I've mentioned earlier, of course as a role of HGL Commissioner I'm naturally a neutral manager/person, but in real life what I love almost most in many sports (including basketball) is when a huge underdog is able to cause an upset. So I guess I got hold of the spirit, that you were describing in your message... And yes, a lot is often lost in translation, especially in philosophical matters, song lyrics and poetry...

Anyway, like I said, good luck to all for Round Three (semifinal) matches - yes, of course also todays' favorites Svätý Jur Snakers and Santa Eufemia Ducks, even though usually favorites aren't that much in a need for a luck. :)

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/16/2025 7:20:44 AM
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Semifinal Round (Round Three) of Playoffs didn't require an extra visit to pharmacy for re-stocking your Nitro's, as favorites Svätý Jur Snakers and Santa Eufemia Ducks were able to find ways to keep opposition within a safe distance, winning by 22 and 26 points, respectively.

So as far as last match day of HGL Season 1 is concerned, to quote my official Playoff post:

PO Round 4 (final and a bronze matches): Sunday, June 22nd, 2025:

Home team name bolded.
All games played at Official HGL match times (similar to Regular Season), in other words all matches are played (and finish approximately) simultaneously:

Final:
Rank #1 HAD vs. #2 SED [match=XXX]

Bronze:
Rank #3 HEY vs. #4 WMO [match=XXX]


So Hadár (Svätý Jur Snakers) and Deano25 (Heywood Big Dogs) are now asked to proceed with the match organizing process, and asked to add links to their own box score posts as soon as match has been accepted so that I can verify match specs, and after that I'll be able to add match links to an official playoff post (here: (326590.7).

And as usual, all the specs for the matches (match start time, home/away court balance) remain the same as during the whole Playoffs.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/16/2025 7:23:39 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/19/2025 12:05:58 PM
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@All HGL managers, that participate on Season 2 of HGL:

As the Season 2 of HGL is closing in fast, I have done some preliminary work in a form of roster eligibility checks of current and new HGL teams.
All teams that have currently non-eligible players on their rosters have been contacted, so that they have plenty of time to solve this before Season 2 starts.

The goal is to continue HGL with 16 teams on Season 2; more on this a bit later.

But as we are likely going to have similar amount of teams for Season 2, we can reuse the HGL schedule from Season 1, after I replace some current team names (4 teams exiting, 4 likely joining for Season 2).

So before this season, we asked HGL managers who wants to become a volunteer when making Pickup match challenges for the Regular Season.

In practice, it means that they are willing to spend more than average (in practice like 11-13) tokens when organizing Regular Season matches. For Season 1 we got this result when asking for volunteers:

Already Volunteered:
1. Wagner
2. MrJ
3. Gccsteel
4.T-Lit
5. Moneta
6. Deano25
7. Paul George
8. Chucarro

So now that MrJ, Deano 25 and Gccsteel are no longer going to be part of HGL on Season 2, who else wants to step up as a volunteer?

In optimal scenario, we'd need three more volunteers (others than those on the list already) so that we would be able to let people know approximately how many tokens they'll be using during Season 2 match organizing process.

Please note: it would be ideal if you´d be willing to volunteer again for Season 2, if you see your name on the above (Season 1) volunteers-list.



If all managers from above list will be volunteers again, we technically have enough new volunteers now that Hadár, WiMaOl and demars volunteered already (on other words, if all same managers volunteer again, that did it last time).


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Updateable list of volunteers for HGL Season 2 Pickup match organization:

1. Wagner
2. Hadár *NEW*
3. WiMaOl *NEW*
4. demars *NEW*
5. Moneta
6. Paul George
7. Chucarro

EDIT 23.6.2025: We should now have technically enough new volunteers, if :
- T-Lit would be willing/ready to be volunteers also for Season 2!?



Having said that, it's not a bad thing even if everyone would announce to be volunteers, then I'd just have more free hands to change things in schedule if totally necessary.
That´d be also positive because changing one piece in this match organization process may (or may not) change other parts of it, so I'd prefer keeping changes at 0 (or as close as zero as possible) compared to Season 1 schedule (which has proven to be functional).


Last edited by Wagner at 6/25/2025 8:32:52 AM

From: Hadár

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Date: 6/19/2025 12:16:50 PM
Svätý Jur Snakers
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You can add me as a volunteer.

From: Wagner

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Thanks for volunteering, 2 new ones are still needed (who weren't volunteers on Season 1) if all Season 1 volunteers still want to remain in that same role for Season 2!

For those that are interested and/or are willing to offer their advice/opinion on this league schedule creating matter, this is part of the discussion that we had prior to Season 1 on alternative methods of creating league schedule:
(324689.508) (starting from the "Let's take your list of 8 above as a starting point." and (324689.509) (starting from the "EDIT/addition for the last message")

Mostly about those above links I meant that I´d appreciate if someone would like to take a look at/verify my theory (of manager challenging only teams that are below of them on the list) for functionality, should HGL decide to use it on some further seasons instead of using same schedule from previous season.

As mentioned, the goal on Season 2 is to reuse the league schedule from Season 1, so this is hopefully not an urgent issue.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/19/2025 12:33:03 PM

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