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C'mon snuzers, be real here. The examples you give are true, but they don't defy logic like what you require.

Why don't you go sell all your players and see how many legal lineups you're able to set?

Now don't fly off to the extreme here....I never intended to eliminate forfeits all together.....
however, you could make it so you can't sell or fire players once you get to a minimum number of players......
it also isn't realistic for someone to sell off their players to the point they have nobody left....they would sell the franchise or fold.......
Being a normal, somewhat sane individual, I wouldn't sell all my players. I would just stop playing. However, set a minimum roster requirement, default a lineup and be done with it.

As I posted before, it's not realistic for a "professional" team to forfeit. You need to make the game "idiot proof".....
even if it's a minimum of 7 players or 5 players, or whatever, enforce it and don't allow depth charts to be saved with a starting five slot empty and see what happens......
I dislike the notion that it is impossible to do. Now, if the issue is that it won't be done...ok. Say that then. I'm a big boy. I can take it. My days of thinking I should get what I want, whenever I want it (like my 6 year old are long gone)....at least my 13 year old has accepted that as well.

Edited 10/17/2007 7:55:37 PM by snuzers

Ok the problem is well known and it is on the list of things that need fixing.

For now it will stay like it is until the more pressing issues are dealt with.

Ok, I give you that people still are fighting the whole earth is round thing........ :)

Haha! That was pretty good - well done. :)

Ok the problem is well known and it is on the list of things that need fixing.

For now it will stay like it is until the more pressing issues are dealt with.

Fair enough.

Just as an FYI, looking through the playoffs for about 160 leagues, I found 4 forfeits. One in the championship finals, and the other three in the first round....since I can't see the depth chart screen, I have no idea why those four teams forfeited. I understand the steps taken have resolved the majority of the issues, but I hope that playoff forfeits, which should never happen, are remembered so something is done in the future.....
As old as I am, I won't forget about it!!!!!

I have seen 2 playoff forfeits and both were brand new teams who I assume had not set up their team in time.

Ok I will write my suggestion I have mentioned to the BBs here, now that you have bumped this thread Charles.

The solution to fixing this problem could be similar to the way the results are forced to be 25-0.

This forcing of numbers could be used for all of the statistics for each player.
If each player was forced to have their average statistics for that game their average then their averages would not change.

This could be applied to just the team that did not forfeit.

This forcing of numbers could be used for all of the statistics for each player.If each player was forced to have their average statistics for that game their average then their averages would not change.
This could be applied to just the team that did not forfeit.

See what happens when a great mind thinks through a problem? Great things happen, that's what.
I am a dolt. I realize that, but if JudgeNik can come up with a way to resolve the statline issues....then another of the brilliant minds of BB should be able to figure out a way to resolve the illegal lineup issue.
I really believe that. I know it's on the backburner and I've accepted that, but as one of my earlier posts mentioned, forfeits in professional basketball are plain unrealistic and I think that ultimately, a solution is needed to attempt to reduce them to rare instances......

You don't consider your 4 discovered forfeits out of 160 leagues rare? That is easily less than 1% of the games. For a game with a ton of new and clueless users, I think that's pretty good already.

The thing with the forfeits is that if someone doesn't enter a full lineup, putting random players in random positions, to fill the depth chart, is likely to be more of a risky solution than forfeiting. It is a lot less likely to have anomalies appear in user's games where they did set a full lineup.

Some guiding points for when this is worked on at the beginning of the offseason:

(1) The line which defines a forfeit should be when 2 starter positions have not been assigned players.
i.e. the team has not just sold a player just before the game and forgot to update his lineup but had been negligent enough to not have 2 starters.

(2) When only one starter player has not been set the backup should automatically fill that depth chart position when the game processed.

(3) If there are spaces in the backups and reserves section of the depth chart they are filled with players from the same position. e.g. If the reserves Center is missing the starter Center is repeated in that field.

But really this is will take a LOT longer to code than how long it took to write these paragraphs.