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Which NBA players would have a "legendary" rating in a BB skill?

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137503.272 in reply to 137503.264
Date: 3/4/2011 8:17:42 AM
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Jump Shot: Dirk, Ray Allen, Jordan


Now, based on the names on the list, it looks like you have been watching basketball for a while, and your list is pretty solid. But I keep seeing Michael Jordan show up for 'legendary' jump shot, and it seems that David Stern and Nike's marketing machine really did a number on people.

If you look at Jordan's shooting percentages, he shot over 50% in 6 of his 15 seasons, which were his first season, and then seasons 4-8. In his last seven seasons, he shot below the 50% mark. And what was different? He started relying more on his jump shot and drove to the hoop less. So I would give more credibility to people putting him on the driving list, but since he only did that for half a career he doesn't really belong on that list either.

In contrast, Steve Nash, who regularly makes the list for Handling or Passing (as he should), but seldom for Jump Shot or Jump Range has shot over 50% for each of the last seven seasons, and his career 3FG% is an astonishing .429, a full 30 points higher than Ray Allen who regulary makes the Jump Range list.

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Date: 3/4/2011 1:59:55 PM
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Jump Shot: Dirk, Ray Allen, Jordan


Now, based on the names on the list, it looks like you have been watching basketball for a while, and your list is pretty solid. But I keep seeing Michael Jordan show up for 'legendary' jump shot, and it seems that David Stern and Nike's marketing machine really did a number on people.

If you look at Jordan's shooting percentages, he shot over 50% in 6 of his 15 seasons, which were his first season, and then seasons 4-8. In his last seven seasons, he shot below the 50% mark. And what was different? He started relying more on his jump shot and drove to the hoop less. So I would give more credibility to people putting him on the driving list, but since he only did that for half a career he doesn't really belong on that list either.

In contrast, Steve Nash, who regularly makes the list for Handling or Passing (as he should), but seldom for Jump Shot or Jump Range has shot over 50% for each of the last seven seasons, and his career 3FG% is an astonishing .429, a full 30 points higher than Ray Allen who regulary makes the Jump Range list.

Ray Allen shoot also much more 3pt than Nash,so a minimal difference in 3pt% it would not however give him the edge in the jump range categorie,imho
I would put him at the legendary level both in JS and FT,while it's "only" 18 or 19 in JR

I agree on Jordan,also if i Think that paradoxically he could not be the best in any of BB skill,but he would have like 4 or 5 skill like 18-19 and a lot of other high skills

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Date: 3/4/2011 5:02:21 PM
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I agree on Jordan,also if i Think that paradoxically he could not be the best in any of BB skill,but he would have like 4 or 5 skill like 18-19 and a lot of other high skills

He developed into a decent perimeter defender later in his career, but always had Scottie Pippen to take on the top defensive matchups. I'm not sure what 4 or 5 skills you would put at 18-19. Maybe Jump shot, and driving early in his career. Certainly not Jump Range. He only had a couple seasons where he shot decently for 3FG, and that was after the league moved in the 3 point line (largely to cater to Jordan and the Bulls - David Stern was always more concerned with 'showcasing' Jordan than preserving the integrity of the league and the game).

He was a decent passer, but not great (maybe a 12 or something), an average rebounder (like a 6). Not a great under-the-hoop defender (but not many guards are), not much of a post-up game. He _was_ legendary at getting fouls called on opposing players, but that's not a stat in BB.

Stamina would be very high, and intangibles which BB also doesn't rate

Last edited by JuggleBoy at 3/4/2011 5:03:19 PM

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Date: 3/4/2011 5:57:54 PM
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I would consider him 18 jump shot,and 19 in driving and outside defence(pippen often take on the best adversary offensive player,but was only to save jordan for the offense,and however MJ was never too lazy on defence,as like other offensive superstar are in non-cluth time of the games ie kobe that is a great defender when he want but he is also very lazy on the rest of the game) and he would be at the top in stamina and experience

He should be like
JS:18 JR:12
OD:19 HN:15
DR:19 PA:12
IS:14 ID:11
RB:11 SB:9
STA:20(BB's 10) FT:11

EXP:20


Last edited by Steve Karenn at 3/4/2011 5:59:25 PM

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Date: 3/5/2011 3:58:41 AM
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Jump Shot: Ray Allen | Drazen Petrovic
Jump Range: Peja Stojakovic | Ray Allen
Outside Def: Bruce Bowen
Handling: Chris Paul | Deron Williams
Driving: Dwayne Wade | Michael Jordan
Passing: Rajon Rondo | Jason Williams | Vlade Divac
Inside Shot: Shaquille O'Neal | Tim Duncan
Inside Def: Hakeem | Dwight Howard
Rebounding: Dennis Rodman | Hakeem
Shot Blocking: Dikembe Mutombo | Dwight Howard
Stamina: LeBron James/Kobe Bryant/Michael Jordan
Free Throws: Ray Allen | Peja Stojakovic
Experience: Jason Kidd

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Date: 3/5/2011 6:40:19 PM
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what about passing?

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Date: 3/8/2011 11:24:42 AM
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Jump Shot: Durant
Jump Range: Peja
Outside Def.: Artest
Handling: Nash
Driving: Ellis
Passing: Nash
Inside Shot: Shaq
Inside Def.: Duncan
Rebounding: Wallace (at his prime)
Shot Blocking: Camby
Stamina: Iverson
Free Throw: Nash
Experience: Shaq

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Date: 3/10/2011 12:13:05 PM
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Hello,

I find this one interesting so I might as well answer =)

Jump Shot: Kobe Bryant
Jump Range: Kevin Durant
Outside Defense: Kobe Bryant
Handling: Chris Paul
Driving: Lebron James
Passing: Steve Nash
Inside Shot: Shaquille O'Neal
Inside Defense: Dwight Howard
Rebounding: Dennis Rodman
Shot Blocking: Dikembe Mutombo
Stamina: Allen Iverson
Free Throw: Stephen Curry
Experience: Robert Parish

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Date: 3/11/2011 1:12:24 AM
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It's funny- as I was reading everyone's take on Jordan's less than legendary skills, all I could think about was his OD. Thanks for that post.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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Date: 3/13/2011 5:46:11 PM
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Jump Shot: Keving Durant
Jump Range: Kyle Korver
Outside Defense: Chris Paul
Handling: Steve Nash
Driving: Monta Ellis
Passing: Rajon Rondo
Inside Shot: Tim Duncan
Inside Defense: Dwight Howard
Rebounding: Dennis Rodman
Shot Blocking: Manute Bol
Stamina: Dwayne Wade
Free Throw: Kevin Durant
Experience: Michael Jordan

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