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It's great that there's something to play for even in the last round.

Absolutely, I'm glad to see there are many even matchups.
I think it also does help in making most Regular Season games meaningful (and to have more teams involved longer into the season) to have 12 teams included in Playoffs (compared to "regular setting" where only 8 teams would qualify for Playoffs).

It's also going to be interesting to see how teams win-loss records will evolve during couple of next seasons, but let´s not get ahead of things though, as we're going to have an interesting playoffs ahead - while there is no doubt in my mind (either) that you and GM-Enzo are huge favorites to win the HGL, I want to remind everyone that every win in Playoffs will be recorded to all-time HGL Playoff wins-stats category, so give it your all on every game even if it feels tough... speaking of tough, if all home teams win on Playoffs Round 1 (including myself), then I'll face Hadár with perfect 15-0 record on Round 2!

Santa Eufemia Ducks or Svätý Jur Snakers are far ahead. it would be surprising if the title escapes one of these two teams, espacially with the home advantage

Indeed, they have very strong teams.
While in my role as a HGL Commissioner I'm a neutral manager in that sense, I'm simultaneously only a human with my own opinions and preferences and I usually hope that we'd see some surprise results as well during Playoffs, as at least to me that's the salt of any sports as they keep it more interesting.
Having said that, I also hope at least not too many games won't be decided because of bad luck (injuries) - fouling outs are another story, which could help an underdog team to create a proper Cinderella story (if I may lend a term used in NCAA basketball).

I haven't really made any "studies" or read long conversations about home advantage in BB, but some bookmakers consider it to be around 3-3,5 points... So I wonder if that's even close approximation what's home advantage "worth" in BB, does anyone have more experience/clear views on this?

Santa Eufemia Ducks or Svätý Jur Snakers are far ahead. it would be surprising if the title escapes one of these two teams, espacially with the home advantage

Indeed, they have very strong teams.
While in my role as a HGL Commissioner I'm a neutral manager in that sense, I'm simultaneously only a human with my own opinions and preferences and I usually hope that we'd see some surprise results as well during Playoffs, as at least to me that's the salt of any sports as they keep it more interesting.
Having said that, I also hope at least not too many games won't be decided because of bad luck (injuries) - fouling outs are another story, which could help an underdog team to create a proper Cinderella story (if I may lend a term used in NCAA basketball).

I haven't really made any "studies" or read long conversations about home advantage in BB, but some bookmakers consider it to be around 3-3,5 points... So I wonder if that's even close approximation what's home advantage "worth" in BB, does anyone have more experience/clear views on this?

More like 8-10 points.

More like 8-10 points.

Do you mean in BB and/or in real life?

What that 3-3,5points meant, is that if teams are given a strength number/value that tries to reflect how many points they likely score in a match, then depending on playing home or away, it will be added to their strength rating.

2 examples, the way at least I have understood situation.

Team A is a better team, rating 83, while team B has a rating of 78. In this case on neutral court team A would be 5 point favorite.

If team A plays home and we assume home court giving 3 point advantage, then team A would be 83+3=86-78= 8 point favorite in that match.

If match is played on team B's home court on the other hand, then team B's strength rating would receive +3 as follows:
78+3=81-83= -2: team B would be only 2 point underdog playing in the home court (as opposed to being 5 point underdog on neutral arena and 8 point underdog on away court).

This is at least the way I've always "calculated" that suggested home court advantage, whether it's a right interpretation of it or not.

More like 8-10 points.

Do you mean in BB and/or in real life?

What that 3-3,5points meant, is that if teams are given a strength number/value that tries to reflect how many points they likely score in a match, then depending on playing home or away, it will be added to their strength rating.

2 examples, the way at least I have understood situation.

Team A is a better team, rating 83, while team B has a rating of 78. In this case on neutral court team A would be 5 point favorite.

If team A plays home and we assume home court giving 3 point advantage, then team A would be 83+3=86-78= 8 point favorite in that match.

If match is played on team B's home court on the other hand, then team B's strength rating would receive +3 as follows:
78+3=81-83= -2: team B would be only 2 point underdog playing in the home court (as opposed to being 5 point underdog on neutral arena and 8 point underdog on away court).

This is at least the way I've always "calculated" that suggested home court advantage, whether it's a right interpretation of it or not.

I'm not sure about all that, Wagner...

...but over the seasons I have found that in BB, where two teams are evenly matched, then HCA is approximately 8-10 points. This is without Crowd Involvement PR staff. It is an approximate figure quote by many over time. I have always found it to be relatively accurate but not absolute.

I have noticed this even more so in some 3-game final series over the years where the two teams were so close that the 3-game series (taking into account the HCA and Enth expenditure) have had series where the difference between the 3 games swings were around 8-10 points for each game.

Again, this is only an approximate. Maybe it's less these days than what it was many years ago...I don't know.

If I were asked to commit to an absolute value, I would say 8 points.



Last edited by MrJ at 5/27/2025 7:40:17 AM

May I have your attention, all HGL managers:
As mentioned, now is the time to start organizing First Round Playoff matches, so please proceed with this process as soon as you see this message. Playoff Round 1 matchups can be found from the Official HGL Playoff post, here: (326590.7).

It is necessary to use June 1st, 2025 as a match day and current Official HGL match time is 3.30PM/15.30 Eastern European Time (EET) Daylight Savings Time (DST), so needless to say, if you are not on EET time zone (none other than Suuret Muinaiset is) then please adjust your match challenge time accordingly, just as you did before Regular Season.

Time that you use is again the same designated time given to your team. If you have any doubts about it, you may make a conversion for example at timeanddate.com to see how 15.30EET DST relates to your time zone (or ask a question here, but again, this process is familiar to all of us).

This match organizing is familiar process to all of us from the beginning of season, so there shouldn't be anything difficulties in finalizing it - we just need to proceed with it as soon as possible.

As instructed in my previous memory refresher-posts on this thread, there are couple of things every manager needs to do, especially the ones still playing (but for the easy access, use and editing of Season 1 all-time HGL stats it is very much advisable also for those teams not participating in playoffs).

In practice this means editing your own season box score post, and out of 16 of us only Hadár and myself have currently done this. It is very easy to do this by copy-pasting it from my box score post to your own box score post, and add match links there.
My box score post for copy-pasting playoff schedule to your own box score post can be found from here: (326590.44).
Hadár made it like this: (326590.46).

Easiest way to reach your own Season 1 box score post would be to use links on this post: (326589.3).


When you add match links of accepted Pickup matches to your season box score posting (important: this is absolutely necessary to do well before match is played, whether or not match has been organized!), I will then add it to official HGL Playoff post.

It is very important to add Playoff match links to your own posts well in time (Playoffs will be played on Sundays every week), as we stick with the same policy of designated match time for each team also during Playoffs (so all teams play their matches simultaneously).
If you haven't provided a match link to your season box score post (or being very pressed in time/ in "emergency situations" to Official HGL Scores Thread instead), before match takes place, match time can't be confirmed afterwards.

Please also allow some time for me to make this confirmation of each Playoff Round's matches (in other words being able to click your match link and verify that time and date is correct), as I won't be online each and every day.

EDIT: Edited numbers and names.

Thank you Paul George and Chucarro for providing a match link for First Round of Playoffs.

Currently 3 out of 4 match links for Playoffs Round 1 are available. I will keep updating a playoff post (here: (326590.7)) so that everyone can easily see if all matches are already organized, but of course the quickest way is to check box score post of manager in question as of course Playoff post only updates when I update it so it's never "real time".

I assume that cthulhu has sent match challenges for Playoff Round 1 games for this Sunday, but challenges still haven't been accepted as match links are nowhere to be found?

As mentioned before:

A) match links need to be added to your own team box score post.
In the case you are in a hurry or don't really remember how to get to that post quickly, you may also send it to Official HGL Scores Thread or Official HGL Thread (or even to my BBMail), and then add it to your own Season 1 box score post at later moment when you're not so pressed in time, but I would prefer everyone to add links directly to a correct post.

B) both managers need to add match links to their own season box score posts eventually, but it's most critical that at least another one of them does this well before match is scheduled to start (so that I can verify the match time).

Last edited by Wagner at 5/30/2025 2:58:55 AM

As for First Round of Playoffs, box score links to all but one match (SUM vs. LGM) have already been provided.

SUM has added First Round opponent to his own box score (LGM hasn't edited his post yet), so I assume cthulhu (SUM) has also sent a match proposition to LGM on June 1st.

I contacted both managers by BBMail yesterday, but they haven't still received my BBMail as both have logged in not later than on Wednesday 28th.

So even though it's likely very clear to both (SUM and LGM), please add a match link to your box score post (or as mentioned, if you are in a real hurry, send it to Official HGL Threads or even to my BBMail to begin with and add it later to your box score post) as soon as it's available, thank you. :)

Elan Demars gave the link to the league game. So only the Raidersi and your team have the correct links.

Suuret Muinaiset have now correct link. Elan Demars have still link to the league game.

I don't understand.
I created a game yesterday for Sunday 14h30, and Trouville said yes for the game.
Where is the problem ?