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286047.27 in reply to 286047.25
Date: 4/10/2017 7:17:15 PM
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8 uncontested rebounds per game is higher than 2 and he's been lazier on defense. (https://twitter.com/lakeshowyo/status/847921839179415552)
8 uncontested RPG, doesn't mean he gets 8 more than everyone else. Most rebounds are uncontested, or have you not watched the NBA lately? And since you only want look at analytics, how about he averaged a triple double, in 20 something less possessions a game and in less mpg, than the Big O. But yeah, that doesn't matter either.

But its clear in your bias, that playing in a faster more frenetic offense, wouldn't help Harden? And saying he gives more effort on defense, is laughable.

If you had to take 1 player to get a stop on defense, it wouldn't be Harden.

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286047.28 in reply to 286047.27
Date: 4/11/2017 4:18:34 AM
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First off, I never said Westbrook gets 8 more uncontested rebounds than anyone else. I stated that he's averaged that many this season. Since I haven't watched the Rockets a whole bunch this season, I wanted to know what you were getting at when you talked about their offense. Second, I also never said that a faster offense wouldn't help Harden out.

Third, notice how I never said that Harden gives more effort on defense compared to Westbrook. In my first post, I was referring to previous years where he would take multiple plays off.

Any casual NBA fan would do better than to pick Harden out of all the players in the league to get a stop when it's needed most. However, Westbrook wouldn't be my first choice either. Avery Bradley or Tony Allen would probably get the nod from me.

Like I stated in my first post in this thread, I'm a fan of Westbrook. I like his aggressiveness, tenacity and his undeniable athleticism. Just because I criticize parts of his game doesn't mean I'm biased against him.

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286047.29 in reply to 286047.28
Date: 4/13/2017 4:22:02 AM
R.C.V.S.P.
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Well, I didn't vote because there is one option that is not proposed : BOTH.
For me both of them are aliens this season.
LeBron is the best, one of the most complete players in all NBA history, if not the most complete. But this season the other 2 are in state of grace ...
So both for MVP of the season, and Le Bron (or Kawhi) MVP of the finals

From: Mr J

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286047.30 in reply to 286047.1
Date: 4/17/2017 10:00:08 AM
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Geez...Game 1 of ROCKETS V THUNDER...

Harden was sublime...

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286047.31 in reply to 286047.30
Date: 4/18/2017 4:32:19 AM
TSV Empor Göhren
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If Westbrook doesn't win MVP this season, then he'll never get it. For me, he deserves it, because of the mark he has set. His selfishness doesn't matter to me.
But of course there are a lot of players in the conversation. To see a list of ten players, even added Porzingis, I'm wondering if somebody knows about the Greek Freak ...
He will probably win the MIP, but for me he is more important for his team (success) than Porzingis is for his Knicks. Even though the overall merch value of Porzingis might be higher because NY is a different market.

It's just another fan in the peanut gallery with an opinion, which is meaningless. (Gregg Popovich on LaVar Ball)
From: Mr J

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286047.33 in reply to 286047.32
Date: 4/18/2017 10:17:11 AM
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Harden in Game 1 was sublime. He has my vote for MVP (not because of the game 1) but because in every rs game I watched him play I had that Jordan-like-feeling...I can sense he is capable of doing anything at any time and when he does it's beautiful to watch. He is no Jordan but he is only one of a few players who I watch and their is that unstated anticipation knowing they could go off. I think LJ, Curry etc Although Westbrook is an outstanding player I feel harden---despite his lack of defense abilities---should get the nod for MVP. That's my 2c worth.


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286047.34 in reply to 286047.32
Date: 4/18/2017 10:54:15 AM
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It should matter to you and all those bright minds who voted for him.

Well, is there anything better than an extraordinary bright mind that tells one how he has to think about something?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know there are no written rules, that set boundary conditions which player is even eligible to be voted.
I can understand the other votes, but my criteria are at least slightly different. Westbrooks team is imho worse than Hardens and there are enough stats besides the TDs that speak for Westbrooks case. And he was clutch, especially in the final weeks.
But I can reassure you, that even I have a limit for bearable selfishness. He was near that line, but still no reason for me not ot vote for him.
For me, his team would have been much worse without him than any other team without their star player, but that's just me ...
Finally, since when you draw conclusions after just one game?
Yeah, game 1 was horrible, but there are at least three opportunities to bounce back. We will see, if and how Westbrook can adjust his game.

Yes that's exactly the point. That idiot Stern did famously said that his ideal Finals would be LAL vs LAL. NY and LA are the 2 biggest markets. Porzingis happens to be the future of one of those teams.

For Porzinigs, I hope so. But I'm still a bit sceptical. Will he be injury-prone? He missed 16 games this season and had some back issues, if I don't confuse that with another player. That is always a point when I start to listen attentively ...

It's just another fan in the peanut gallery with an opinion, which is meaningless. (Gregg Popovich on LaVar Ball)
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286047.36 in reply to 286047.35
Date: 4/18/2017 2:44:36 PM
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Westbrook is MVP...

Doesnt matter if he wont win playoffs, doesnt matter if he lose vs Harden. Guy set new record and averaged tripple double. Not to mention its individual reward. Best team will receive rings anyway.

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