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Yes, PLs are only once a week. Which is a positive for the HGL as it has 2 per week.
And, yes, playing in both would only mean more HG games.
(Although, Wagner may not want me back in the HGL)
And I agree. Why can't both exist and provide more HG games!
And, Hadar, go to the Home Grown Kings post and say you want ot play...and you're in

Thanks for the invitation, when I become a supporter I will definitely get in touch ;)
And I don't think Wagner wouldn't want you in HGL. I think it's a good thing that you exchanged a few opinions. Everyone can have their own view on things.

Yes, PLs are only once a week. Which is a positive for the HGL as it has 2 per week.
And, yes, playing in both would only mean more HG games.
(Although, Wagner may not want me back in the HGL)
And I agree. Why can't both exist and provide more HG games!
And, Hadar, go to the Home Grown Kings post and say you want ot play...and you're in

Thanks for the invitation, when I become a supporter I will definitely get in touch ;)
And I don't think Wagner wouldn't want you in HGL. I think it's a good thing that you exchanged a few opinions. Everyone can have their own view on things.

Agreed.

And healthy too.

As for conversations indirectly related to HGL, I need to get back to them at a later time as I'm kind of busy and HGL playoffs are closing in, which is of course number one priority as it requires a weekly action from every manager who is still involved in playoffs (except on first playoff week/round for teams that are ranked from 1st to 4th on regular season and will be automatically qualified for the Second Round of Playoffs).

So, couple of reminders.

First Round of Playoffs will take place on Sunday 1st of June, in which teams ranked 5th to 12th will face each other in one match, from which winners proceed to face 4 best teams of Regular Season (on Round 2 of playoffs).

As you guys probably remember, for teams in equal number of wins after regular season, decisive factor in determining who is a better team is not the scoring difference (scored minus allowed points), but rather a score of the match against the team that you have equal number of wins with.

Official Regular Season Rankings (ORSR) will be published after last Round of Regular Season. Of course you can see them by yourself too (as you check out your season scores between that team in question and yourself), but First Round match challenges are sent based on the aforementioned ORSR.

Another very important thing to remember, that differs from Regular Season, is that all Playoff matches are played on home/away court setting (no exceptions; scores played with wrong court settings won't be accepted). Please be very accurate with this (also) when organizing matches.
As a basic rule, home team is always responsible sending challenge, but it's also acceptable for an away team to send the challenge to speed up the match organizing process, if they are willing to use an extra token (that won't be reimbursed for them).

Official match times will remain the same as in Regular Season of HGL, so in other words everyone plays at the same time official time as during the Regular Season.

Now that in Europe we are using Daylight Savings Time (Summer Time) currently, official HGL match time is 3.30PM Eastern European Time (EET) Daylight Savings Time (DST), (in other words 15.30 EET DST).
So basically, if I understood it right, in most cases (I didn't yet verify if this completely applies to US and especially Australian teams, as especially in Australia the DST is observed way diffferently than in Europe) that means that it's plus one hour to your official HGL match time now that it's Summer Time.

While I normally don't like to provide extra links to external websites to verify things, one of the options would be to enter that aforementioned time 3.30PM/15.30 EET Daylight Savings Time to a webpage, for example to timeanddate.com, and then in there do a time conversion by entering your home city, to see what time in your home city equals 3.30PM/15.30 EET DST.

This will be the time that everyone uses when organizing Playoff matches for HGL.

As a refresher for Playoffs, I'd encourage everyone to do this:
1. Go into the first page of Home-Grown League (HGL) Season 1 Official Thread (yes, this thread, first post here: (326589.1)).
2. Use your browser's search function, enter word playoff to the search bar, and make search function to highlight all 'playoff' words from that page (first page of this thread concerns all 11 first official posts on this thread)
3. Read through at least all notes that include that highlighted word 'playoffs'
4. Especially read through this post: (326589.10)
5. If you are still unsure how rankings for Playoffs are made, check out HGL league table posts. Official Regular Season Rankings (ORSR) for Playoffs are made by Commissioner though, so nobody needs to worry about them too much.

I still ask everyone to check Playoff matchups out immediately so that they are correct (work is done manually).

2 Rounds of Regular Season left, and still some very important matches ahead!

Last edited by Wagner at 5/23/2025 7:50:45 AM

League tables updated after Round 14!

Couple of especially interesting matches ahead on last Round 15 of Regular Season. We could actually have a 10-5 tie between 4 teams, if Suuret Muinaiset wins their last Round match against WiMaOlCa (very close score to be anticipated based on Top8-salaries), and favorites to win their respective matches, Elan Demars and Rajdersi, will take care of the business on the floor on next Monday.

Other of those 4 teams than WMO and SUM have already faced each other during the season, but if SUM wins their last Round match, they will overtake (at least) WMO in Regular Season standings - like you can see, I still didn't do all the comparison/re-check who has won who during Regular Season (out of these 4 teams).

And if all these teams are tied at 10-5, one of them will claim "a free ticket" for the Second Round of Playoffs, as we're talking about teams ranked from 4th to 7th here. Free ticket is in some ways less than ideal way to express it though, as they've certainly had to win plenty of games earn that position!

It's great that there's something to play for even in the last round.

@ all HGL managers:
HGL Playoffs of Season 1 are just behind the corner, so here's some last minute advice for all HGL managers (yes, also those not qualified for Playoffs are asked to do a minor edit to their box score posts).



What will happen next?

1. Every HGL manager is advised to update their own box score post for Season 1 Playoffs, the way I did it in my own box score post, here: (326590.44).

Easiest way to do this is to copy paste everything from my post, below the Regular Season schedule/scores, on other words starting from words "HGL Season 1 Playoffs:" till the end of post, including all abbreviations explained)

After you have copy-pasted that, please add and/or keep on adding either scores from that Round with a match link (like during Regular Season, and during RS match organizing process), or an appropriate abbreviation, for the full duration of Playoffs.
For instance:
-Santa Eufemia Ducks would use AQR2 abbreviation for First Round,
-Buckner Bandits NQP, and
-Madrid Chotis wouldn't yet write anything as his team is qualified for playoffs but First Round opponent and score are yet to be determined - he would update his own box score post and add a match link to that post, once the challenge has been sent and accepted.

If these sound tricky, please do check out my post, abbreviations are explained, however they're also more or less self-explanatory.

2. After last Round of Regular Season, I will create ORSR (Official Regular Season Rankings).

3. Based on ORSR, home teams (team, that has a higher Regular Season Ranking) send correct (time and court balance home/away!)challenges to away teams. Yes, this time they really are home and away teams - remember, that Playoff games played on neutral court do not count!

Also an away team can send a challenge if they want to speed up the process, but they will then lose one extra token. If it's fine for them, then by all means anyone (home or away team) can send the challenge on those cases.

4. Again, please remember that official HGL match times remain the same during Playoffs as well.
So as we are utilizing Daylight Savings Time (DST, a.k.a. Summer Time) in Eastern Europe and therefore current official HGL match time is now 15.30 or 3.30PM EET due to that, that would mean for instance 14.30/2.30PM in France, Spain, and so on.

If you are hesitant about time, just ask me a question or check out that aforementioned timeanddate.com for example. If you enter for example "Helsinki" in there, which is located in EET time zone, and enter 15.30/3.30PM there to make a time conversion to your own city, you should find a correct match time.

Please do not accept match offers during Playoffs in which times are way off (more than maximum of 1 hour).

Same kind of "maximum 1 hour off from official HGL match time" (as used during Regular Season match organizing process) can be accepted/tolerated during Playoffs, but please do not willingly/on purpose abuse this tolerance, but try to play matches on correct times.
For most remaining teams knowing correct match time shouldn't be a problem as we all have organized Regular Season matches fairly successfully (within 1 hour tolerance), and for Heywood Big Dogs they also seemed to find a correct time for sending challenges (time differences between Australia and Europe are especially challenging, but that's another story for another day).

Official Regular Season Rankings (ORSR) and Playoffs schedule will be published here: (326590.7).

Last edited by Wagner at 5/26/2025 5:46:50 AM

PO Round 1 Sunday, June 1st, 2025

Elan Demars vs. Club Trouville

Rajdersi vs. Holy City Hoopers

Suuret Muinaiset vs. Les Gueux du Marais

Wagner College vs. Madrid Chotis

The first round of the playoffs should look like this, but it will only be official when Wagner confirms it.....

Santa Eufemia Ducks or Svätý Jur Snakers are far ahead. it would be surprising if the title escapes one of these two teams, espacially with the home advantage

Anything can happen.....

PO Round 1 Sunday, June 1st, 2025

Elan Demars vs. Club Trouville

Rajdersi vs. Holy City Hoopers

Suuret Muinaiset vs. Les Gueux du Marais

Wagner College vs. Madrid Chotis

The first round of the playoffs should look like this, but it will only be official when Wagner confirms it.....

Thanks for your message Hadár!
Indeed it should look like that, I did confirm that myself and created Official Regular Season Rankings-table to Official HGL Playoff post, here: (326590.7).

We are now ready to start our Playoff match organizing process for teams ranked from 5th to 12th on Regular Season.
Please refer to earlier post (326589.260) which includes some memory refreshers, and Official HGL Playoff post (link above) if you are even a bit hesitant about the process, or preferably even if you aren't.

Sometimes it's funny how person can forget something that feels even quite some obvious, but it turns into understandable thing when we consider it from the standpoint that maybe "1000000 things" have visited his mind after he read those instructions last time... so it's hardly a time badly spent, if one reads instructions again. :) And having said that, anyone please feel free to add something to my posts, if you feel like I forgot to add some important reminder here or there.

So please send correct match challenges (use same official match time that you successfully used when organized Regular Season matches, and use correct home/away court balance!) to teams as soon as possible, so they have enough time to accept that challenge and then you both have enough time to set up customized lineups for the match (or otherwise your default matchup will be set up for the Pickup match if you don't set it up manually, if I'm not completely mistaken).

So to all HGL managers:
please do as I suggested in one of my previous messages (here: (326589.260), especially part 1.) so that when you have created that Playoff section to your own box score post, you can then update match links there as soon as possible (when match offers have been accepted), and from every manager's own box score posts I will copy match links to the Official HGL Playoff post, just like we did during Regular Season match organizing process.
Then match box score link (and eventually score in written text form when match has ended) will be added to Official HGL Playoff post, here: (326590.7)

I also would strongly encourage all of you to set some kind of reminders to phones/computers/calendars during playoffs, so that we would be able to make this as smooth and fair process as possible, as success of this league relies on managers being committed enough, especially during playoffs.

Of course, if any problems arise, I don't mean that you shouldn't approach me on the forums (of course you should, if problems such as "he didn't challenge me in time", or "he didn't accept my challenge", etc. arise) but I'm just saying that sometimes in such situations there might not be real winners even if the guilty part is found, and in some other cases it could prove to be difficult to prove who the "guilty" part was anyway, so let's hopefully skip that part altogether by being considerate towards each other by acting out in time (when sending match challenges and accepting them).
On other words, I'm just encouraging everyone to try to do their part as carefully as possible and on time so we can get this most critical time of the Season to become as smooth sail as possible.

It's great that there's something to play for even in the last round.

Absolutely, I'm glad to see there are many even matchups.
I think it also does help in making most Regular Season games meaningful (and to have more teams involved longer into the season) to have 12 teams included in Playoffs (compared to "regular setting" where only 8 teams would qualify for Playoffs).

It's also going to be interesting to see how teams win-loss records will evolve during couple of next seasons, but let´s not get ahead of things though, as we're going to have an interesting playoffs ahead - while there is no doubt in my mind (either) that you and GM-Enzo are huge favorites to win the HGL, I want to remind everyone that every win in Playoffs will be recorded to all-time HGL Playoff wins-stats category, so give it your all on every game even if it feels tough... speaking of tough, if all home teams win on Playoffs Round 1 (including myself), then I'll face Hadár with perfect 15-0 record on Round 2!