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9808.252 in reply to 9808.251
Date: 3/10/2008 9:04:44 PM
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Hi Charles,
I actually like the first 3 proposals (more or less in the same order you wrote them down).
Number 1 is my favourite, cause it still allows the trading but reduces a lot its impact on the gameplay. Number 2 is also good, but if it's not well implemented it could lead to big problems to teams in bad financial conditions. Number 3 cannot really stand by itself, cause money are usually stronger than teamspirit; also, after a couple of season of trading without caring about results, one could have really a lot of money. Number 4 is a very bad idea, and i'm not gonna take it into consideration ;-)
The others are more or less all related to a "compare transfer" feature, which in my opinion is not easy at all to implement and could bring people to confusion.

I understand your reason to keep a little bit of trading, and i appreciate a lot your efforts to try to improve this game with the community. Keep it like this ;-)

Last edited by ringo™ at 3/10/2008 9:06:26 PM

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9808.253 in reply to 9808.251
Date: 3/10/2008 9:20:19 PM
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3 followed very closely by 2....

these to me are logical and necessary steps... new players do take time to adapt and certain departures will naturally cause fellow team mates to lose enthusiasm.


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9808.254 in reply to 9808.251
Date: 3/10/2008 9:53:50 PM
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4. ;)

1,2,3 i dont care if it makes people happy just do it...

5. a transfer compare isnt a bad thing if you can get something like this working, it would help people a lot...

6 and 7 doesnt sound good to me and i think it wont help atm coz there is many high skilled individual players which probably hard to trace in this.

8. im sorry i got no ideas.

ps. i dont waste any time in the forum no more to make as much profit as i can before any changes happen ;)

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9808.255 in reply to 9808.254
Date: 3/10/2008 10:07:53 PM
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have you heard of the game musical chairs?

when the music stops..... dont be the last man standing...

3) Just implement it... it seems strange to have it for NT and not for club.... i know its to stop the NT manager just browsing thru everyones roster but at least for club it has some meaning and logic that applies to everyone...

I am against transfer compare and i would imagine this is very offputting... when you have played the game a while you know what you think is a fair price to pay.... giving people a guideline during periods of inflation/deflation is not going to help.

Encourage people to watch the trends of players more in the tutorial or rules dont just slap prices on them unless you can come up with a very accurate and far superior tool to the HT nonsense.

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9808.256 in reply to 9808.11
Date: 3/10/2008 10:32:18 PM
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I think those taxes are ridiculously high, they would kill the transfer market.

How about making it so that you cannot transfer list a player until he has been in your squad for 6 weeks?

Also, I think players should be cup-tied - if they have played for any team (in any country) in the cup, they should not be allowed to represent other teams in the cup at a later date...

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9808.257 in reply to 9808.256
Date: 3/10/2008 10:40:42 PM
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Also, I think players should be cup-tied - if they have played for any team (in any country) in the cup, they should not be allowed to represent other teams in the cup at a later date...
Don't you think that is a little harsh?

How about making it so that you cannot transfer list a player until he has been in your squad for 6 weeks?
The game Battrick does something similar where once bought, the player is under contract with that team for 42 days. 6 weeks might be a bit long considering our season length. I'm leaning more towards a heavy tax(maybe not 10%) for people trying to sell players right away. Not only will it deter day trading, but it will also make others think more before bidding on players.

Last edited by Vikman at 3/10/2008 10:40:51 PM

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9808.260 in reply to 9808.259
Date: 3/11/2008 1:25:38 AM
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Charles - what levels of active teams are you hoping there will be by start of season 5, 6 and beyond if you can see this far?

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9808.261 in reply to 9808.259
Date: 3/11/2008 1:27:59 AM
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Why does the market need to regulate naturally? It is an enclosed economic situation and regulations are not the norm rather than the exception.

I may as well just use the NBA as my prime example. There is a roster cap which regulates, there is a salary cap which regulates further, and trades are regulated by salary equivalency. (Actually a roster cap might be a good solution now that I think about it)

I realize that those are not necesarily options, but it the presence of regulation I point out. I assume European leagues have some sort of regulations involved as well.

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9808.262 in reply to 9808.250
Date: 3/11/2008 1:45:20 AM
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I didn't say players are available at 80% of their market price. This a logical nonsense, since market determines the prices. All I am pointing out is that traders will always drop out at 80% of the price, since they can't make any profit. The final sale price is then determined by how much buyers are willing and able to pay.

Traders cannot 'push the prices above the threshold' this way.



I know you didn't say that (although you facetious implied it), but you are ignoring my point. My point is that the day traders are setting the minimum bidding point for everyone else.

Trader speculation inflates different markets all over the world on a regular basis (no I'm not saying it is the only factor, but it is a factor) so why do people so vehemently deny that it could be a problem here?

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