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152188.25 in reply to 152188.24
Date: 7/24/2010 3:21:54 AM
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I love the fact that there are two types of competition in BuzzerBeater. One is focused more on long-term planning (league), the other has a strong factor of surprise and the unexpected and has its focus on the short term (Cup). Remove the difference and having two separate competitions doesn't make that much sense anymore in my opinion.

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152188.27 in reply to 152188.26
Date: 7/26/2010 1:10:26 PM
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The only improvement that needs to be done in the cup draw,is a system to avoid the BOT vs BOT games,that I think would be easy to insert for the BBs

It's just ridicoulous that a BOT team could arrive till the fifth round of the cup,maybe playing only against bot teams

Look at the path of these two teams that will face in the fourth round of the italian cup this season...

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/153765/schedule.aspx

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/156028/schedule.aspx

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152188.28 in reply to 152188.1
Date: 7/26/2010 11:48:33 PM
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I think cup should remain random. It gives those lower league teams a chance for the title (even if it is a small one).

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152188.29 in reply to 152188.28
Date: 7/27/2010 9:27:12 AM
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I think that cup should be changed, but on a different way.

There is a lot of teams in the low leagues. In fact a majority of the teams. So there can be created cup, played just between teams from 6. league separately, 5th league separately, 4th league,.. so do a division way of the cup. Higher league can play more matches against (home and away) as they are closer to the final, so there will be same volume of matches, so you can compensate lower volume of teams in higher league... this would continue like that into secon leagu where would be probably whole season like two matches to go against next team and first leagues can play international cup against teams from the countries with similar volume of users.

That way would be possible to have a chance to win a cup to everyone, not just to 1st league teams. That seems to me pretty boring. And what is normally cup about if not about trying to win that?

From: zyler

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152188.30 in reply to 152188.29
Date: 7/27/2010 12:24:13 PM
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hmmmmm that idea is allready implemented its called normal league games

From: aigidios

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152188.31 in reply to 152188.30
Date: 7/27/2010 12:58:26 PM
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That is not correct. You cannot play against a team from different league of the same division. To win a division you have to beat only few teams succesfully and you have whole season run to do it. Cup is about relegation battle.

At this condition is cup in fact pointless, because doesnt offer any chance to win even for a 2nd division teams (if any won the cup, Im sure that 3rd division team didnt). The problem is that you have here only frame of teams in the first two leagues. Majority is much lower and from that point of view it is not interresting, because you will always know, that you will relegate sooner or later no matter what you do.

Im not sure about basketball, but in football there are cups divided among different levels, so 1st league team will not usually go play agaisnt bunch of villagers to the arena where buy tickets mostly families of the players.

I dont know how about you, but I dont see any motivation in a long run in the cup, because you have to have extra players for it which doesnt have to cross over 50k wage, because it doesnt make big difference anyway if you are losing money because of it.

From: zyler

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152188.32 in reply to 152188.31
Date: 7/27/2010 11:56:50 PM
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my mistake i misread your post.
still i think the cup is fine how it is.

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152188.34 in reply to 152188.33
Date: 7/28/2010 11:53:18 AM
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What if the cup games were just between the same league, so all of div 3 in one cup etc. And the winner got something more rewarding so that it would make things more interesting. For example, the winner of the cup could receive automatic promotion to the higher division and 1 million dollar prize money. This would mean that teams could try and promote via the cup or via their league, or via both if they are good enough. Would add some more tactics to the game as well.

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