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tried Outside Iso last game with a SG at PF slot - inconclusive as far as i can tell

My players took mostly inside shots or drives to the hoop based on the PBP but in fairness my PG has high driving and his C looked overmatched (170k sallary vs 40k). Shot distribution appeared even at all positions. Flipside I have decent to good passing / driving at all positions.

Also had way too many fouls than normal.

I played 3-2 he played M2M. Weboth set TIE

People in my league (with top teams) hate ISOs. Apparently when there is no clear mismatch and you go against very good defenses (for your level of offense) the shot selection is not as 'reasonable' as in other tactics.

NTs have been widely using ISOs for some time now, and it does look like overcoming strong defenses (at least getting to nice percentages vs. the defense level in front).
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A main difference with Patient I see then is the shot distribution, since there's no previously appointed position.
I also think the engine selects the isolated player on a play-by-play basis, which would contribute to the balanced.

I guess the conclusion to be successful with ISOs is, basically, to train perimeter players in inside skills, and viceversa. Then obviously supported by 5 players with DR-HN and also PS as an extra.

That's a good point, it's usual to face high defenses on a club level (it doesn't cost that much) while your offense does not get there (due to money, again) comparing to NT teams. Thank you.

What do people say about which skills are necessary for isolation offences?

Thank you so much.

I might mail you.

What do people say about which skills are necessary for isolation offences?

We had a guy that ran a lot of inside isolation in our league a few seasons back, and he was quite successful with it. I would say that the most important skill can be guessed from the game manual pretty easily when you read the following parts:

Isolation offenses: The team will try to find their best offensive player and clear out an area for him to create his own shot.

Driving: Allows the player to create his own shot without a good pass from a teammate. Better driving creates shots more often and creates better shots on average.

I'd like to see more examples like this, and also comparisons to other games with other offenses to better conclude if ISO's work or not. Another conclusion you can make is that the ISO offense you ran generated good offensive BBstats and PP100's. That those better stats didn't result in a win could be caused by other factors than the ISO offense. If you can provide more examples and comparisons, we can check if those offensive BBstats and PP100's generated by the ISO offense are good compared to when your team runs other offenses (of course they are influenced by other factors such as gameshape), and wether you end up with losses consistently when using the ISO offense despite better BBstats/PP100's.

As of now, it can simply be a case of bad luck with the game engine that caused you to lose despite being the better team (and the ISO offense could have contributed to you being the better team).

This is one of my own games running outside ISO: (79200943)
BBstats were only slightly in my favor; his defense was better than my offense but still I won by 13 points. He did play TIE but I believe that is accounted for by the BBstats. Also interestingly he used Outside Box+1 so he was matched up well defensively. I think this game the ISO was effective; if you look at the BBstats, you'd expect a closer outcome. PP100 are in my favor so looking at that the result is consistent with the input. At least here the ISO didn't fail despite a stronger defense.

Last edited by Jeründerbar at 3/25/2015 12:37:02 PM