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From: Deano25

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Date: 6/6/2025 3:14:26 AM
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Hi Wagner, I logged out and back in again and things seemed to revert. I’ve added a link to my original games post in the second round of finals pos.


From: Wagner

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Date: 6/6/2025 6:43:41 AM
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Having said that, to be honest I can't recall if mid-game injuries (that last only until the end of the current match) are even a possibility in Pickup matches, as I only remember that PU matches can't produce long term injuries.


If memory serves, "mid-game injuries" are possible in Pickup games.


Thanks for confirming that. Also that was not to say that I would hope your players would get injured, but if I want to be on the realistic side (after comparing the levels of our current rosters), early injuries and/or foul outs might be my only chance of clinching a huge upset win. Even with those taking place, I would remain a major underdog in my papers. And from my BB history I can't recall any game in where, say, total of 3-4 players would've injured and/or fouled out quite early on, so AFAIK those are very rare occasions anyway.

Of course I'll try my best (which I advised everyone else to do, no matter how hard your opposition might look like), but you just have a vastly superior team compared to mine, so it's going to be a tall mountain to climb.

Anyway, good luck to everyone for Second Round (quarter-final) matches - "tickets" for medal games are up for grabs now so put in all the effort you´ve got!

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/6/2025 6:49:20 AM
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Hi Wagner, I logged out and back in again and things seemed to revert. I’ve added a link to my original games post in the second round of finals pos.


Thanks for a reply Deano.
I'm not sure I understood 100% what you meant.
But I noticed that you've added a link to your Second Round Playoff match, which is of course the most essential thing, so thank you.
When you´ll add a score of your Second Round match (and possibly add a match link for Third Round, if you win your Second Round match), can you please change a text AQR2 as your First Round "score" (after text "PO Round 1") as you didn't actually play on First Round, thank you.

From: Deano25

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Date: 6/6/2025 6:54:25 AM
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Fair enough. I figured if I had round one there without opponent it was a given. I can do that.
I don’t think I’ll win this one.

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/6/2025 7:27:42 AM
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Fair enough. I figured if I had round one there without opponent it was a given. I can do that.
I don’t think I’ll win this one.

Oh, I see what you mean.
I've taken the approach here that it's kind of new to all of us (first Playoffs ever), and while the process is very similar to organizing Regular Season matches, it still requires actions every week during Playoffs from every manager that is still playing post-season games. Some of those managers could've taken a long pause from HGL (as I haven't seen box score posts being updated regularly for some teams) during HGL Regular Season, so they now have to find a way to actively engage with HGL every week as long as they're playing in Playoffs.

As I've instructed, I recommend everyone to set up some kind of phone/computer/calendar reminders on organizing Playoff matches on time weekly.

So yes, considering that nothing of this is new to us on next season, from the Season 2 Playoffs on I would really want to see everyone, including those teams that have automatically qualified to Second Round (AQR2-status) to add correct status to their teams' own season box score post in time (before the First Round Playoff games are played on Sunday).
I wouldn't prefer to having get this done with better success rate by enforcing penalties.

Again, it's an acceptable practice to send those match links to HGL Scores Thread or to the other Official HGL Thread in the first place if you don't have time to add link to your own season box score posts at that exact moment (it's better than not making it available at all, as it makes it possible to keep on advancing with the match confirmation process on my behalf), but it's necessary to add it also to your teams' own box score post.

In a way it's even easier for me to see/notice that current round match link when it's been sent to, say, to Scores Thread instead of teams' own box score post (as now I do have to visit every teams' box score post again and again to see if link has been sent there already or not).

But eventually if, or rather when, I need to visit those box score posts of all managers later on, it's going to prove to be an almost impossible task (read: a task that is way more arduous than when everyone follows the same easy protocol to begin with) to search for part of the links and scores from the two Official Threads and some links from the teams' own box score posts. So they need to reside clearly at the place where I know I can find them easily, into the foreseeable future.

And the same goes with this, as during Regular Season - it's wise to have these links available at least in two different places, already for security reasons. If you recall, delete button resides 2,5 millimeters (0,1"!) away from the edit-button, so each time I edit something there is a risk included (while a very small one, but it does still exists and consequences could be somewhat critical).

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/6/2025 7:38:57 AM
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Fair enough. I figured if I had round one there without opponent it was a given. I can do that.
I don’t think I’ll win this one.

Well, two of your biggest star players, Lambkin and Costigan (combined wage over $370K) are in best possible game shape this week, and in the salary ranking out of the next 5 "supporting players" worst of them has a wage of around $20K, so while I do understand (and agree on) your points in more equally balanced wage structure possibly being more successful in terms of winning maximum number of games, you still have a very strong team for HGL.

And you won your Regular Season meeting (133880004) by 11, and are now playing at home court instead, so I think you'll have a fair shot at win on Second Round for the very least.

From: Deano25

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Date: 6/6/2025 9:09:41 AM
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I hear what you are saying about having to scroll back through to find posts. I agree, it's a pain.
I'm wondering if in future seasons it might be helpful to just have those posts for teams scores as the only posts in the Scores threads and all other chat in the other thread? It would make it easier to locate each team's post for everyone because that would automatically group them. The easier it is for people to navigate the more likely they are to comply, I reckon.

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/7/2025 7:49:14 AM
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I hear what you are saying about having to scroll back through to find posts. I agree, it's a pain.
I'm wondering if in future seasons it might be helpful to just have those posts for teams scores as the only posts in the Scores threads and all other chat in the other thread?

It might be an idea worth exploring, with some possible positive outcomes. (Having said that, all official HGL information needs to be in the beginning of Threads, and I think on the first page of both Threads).

Just as with everything, it doesn't come without downsides. If that would've happened organically (that all conversation takes place there), it would've happened already this season. Therefore the question is, will managers comply with that if I request it, and/or will it cause the lessening of conversation on HGL Threads? I mean the amount of messages has been decent, but just as I made a comparison post earlier about the amounts of messages sent to Official HGL (main) thread, if we take away my and MrJ's posts, we're taking away like 70-ish percent (if my memory serves me) of all posts. And as keeping threads alive is an important goal, if managers don't take this suggested restriction the right way, it can make Official Threads even more silent in case of some managers.

Also, it's worth noting, that as official HGL posts (that are now on first pages of both official HGL Threads) must remain within a very easy reach (on a first page of both Official Threads), then managers own box score posts wouldn't be located on first page of Scores Thread anyway. So actually the amount of clicks to reach one's own box score post remains the same in both options:
Now you need to go to either 4th post of Scores Thread (326590.4) or 3rd post of main Thread to reach post where there is link to your box score post page, so 1 click.
After the change you would have to click "next page" link once or twice on Scores Thread to reach your season box score post, so it's actually same or bigger amount of clicks to reach that post.

What we could do though, is that after I have established all necessary official HGL posts to Scores Thread (about 10-11 I suppose), then after that people would start immediately establish their own season box scores posts so that they would be available on pages 2-3 on Scores Thread, which is still easy to find without any links.

It would make it easier to locate each team's post for everyone because that would automatically group them. The easier it is for people to navigate the more likely they are to comply, I reckon.


Of course there's logic in it that the easier it is the more likely people will follow procedures. (However, I also need to remind, that it's already easy to find your season box score post currently, so as now all must already know the position of links, it doesn't go as an excuse to not do it).
But having to do everything through forums is never going to be as straightforward than if we'd for instance have a separate website for HGL, with easily editable page structures, layouts and lengths etc., so we're going to have to live with certain amount of inconvenience when we use BBMail (which reminds me more of 90´s than 2025) and forums with silly and inconvenient restrictions.
And like mentioned, official HGL information must not be buried at the lower parts of the tree, but must be available on the beginning of the tree (and if I would position all to main thread, only official posts would take first 2+ pages, which is not ideal for sure).

By automatically grouping them do you mean that they would be followed by one another, like practically was the case on Season 1? (Or that only those would reside on Scores Thread?) On Season 1 though, those posts weren't on pages 2-4 on Scores Thread (but starting from page 4 instead).


Last edited by Wagner at 6/7/2025 7:52:28 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 6/8/2025 2:25:41 PM
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Playoff Round 2 (quarter-finals)
June 8th, 2025
Rank #1 Svätý Jur Snakers vs. (Rank #8) Wagner College 112-92
(home team name bolded)
(135011982)

Last edited by Wagner at 6/8/2025 2:25:57 PM

From: Deano25

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Date: 6/8/2025 5:43:25 PM
Heywood Big Dogs
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Round 2 Playoffs Heywood Big Dogs 94 d Rajdersi 78 (135013891)

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Date: 6/10/2025 1:25:31 AM
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PO Round 2
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Santa Eufemia Ducks vs Suuret Muinaiset: 96 - 60
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