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161502.212 in reply to 161502.211
Date: 11/27/2010 7:09:30 PM
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Maybe the rules should be worded exactly that way to prevent people breaking rules that are not listed...

My reasoning is simple. If it is not listed as illegal in the rules, then it is legal. It is not hard to say "It is prohibited to post any player who is currently on the transfer list on any forum" to make the rule black and white. Friends won't post friends sales instead of their own if the exact wording prevents it... (Note: I have never had any contact of any kind with the player of whom the transfer was listed)

I used the name and team name to rule out any chance that I was just making up a player to prove a point. Obviously if it was stated to be illegal in the rules I would have left them out... But then what prevents another GM deciding that leaving the players name and team out does enough to prevent it to be considered advertising since rules do not have to be worded correctly?

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161502.214 in reply to 161502.213
Date: 11/28/2010 1:23:04 AM
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Once again, it should be defined more specifically as my post was clearly using a player as an example in a discussion and it was also quite clear that I had no intentions of "player advertising" as myself or any of my friends had no benefit whether the player was sold or not.

Whether I did advertise the player or not, by the definitiion in the rules I did so legally. If there is a bug within the game it is giving an advantage or disadvantage it is sorted immediately. I dont see why a definition of a rule is so hard clarify before people make innocent breaches of rules that can be defined differently by many different GMs.


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161502.215 in reply to 161502.214
Date: 11/28/2010 11:55:10 AM
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I don't think there is a single GM who would allow the posting of any transfer listed player, regardless of which team he is on.

You could continue to bicker about the exact wording of the rules or you could just say sorry and not do it again, since it is quite clear that posting a transfer listed player in the forums shouldn't be and isn't allowed.

The rules quite explicitly say that player advertising is not allowed. A player on the transfer list is for sale, thus any posting of his skills or other information constitutes advertising, intentional or not. If you would like to continue your semantic discussion, please feel free to send me a private message. Thanks.

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161502.216 in reply to 161502.215
Date: 3/7/2011 3:06:25 AM
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What do you expect to happen with salary level (inflation/deflation coeficient) for season 16?
I'm little bit worry about salaries and expect big influence against drop due to 2 reasons which increase the amount of money in global B3 economic:
- new rule about not paying salaries during playoff (1/4 of all teams will save 2 weeks salaries and 3/8 to 5/8 of all teams will save 1 week salaries, depending how many relegation series go into tie-break)
- increasing user base, at the moment about 40% more user than at the last season update
It could lead even to raise of salaries (but I hope just slight).

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161502.218 in reply to 161502.217
Date: 3/7/2011 7:37:25 AM
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Also, 90% of the new users might be gone by season break 6 weeks from now.

This could help quite a lot, but huge wave still hasn't finished and maybe there is more than 10% still in game by season update.

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161502.219 in reply to 161502.218
Date: 3/7/2011 11:21:05 AM
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I believe salaries will continue to drop.

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161502.220 in reply to 161502.219
Date: 3/7/2011 11:40:05 AM
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and what do you think of my arguments? I hope for drop, but I'm little bit worry. In 2 season I think it will drop for sure, but this one I'm not sure.

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161502.222 in reply to 161502.221
Date: 3/8/2011 3:25:04 AM
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I know it very well, but I calculate it on our Div I. And I think saved money from salaries will be higher than lost of TV contracts. In our div I TV contracts:
last season: $ 190 250
this season: $ 186 632
Let say without new rule it would have been 210k (but I think it's very optimistic)
For whole league it would mean lost 5.4M for the entire season (only 3.1M for 200k estimation).
If I calculate saved money from salaries (according to currect wage bill and rank of each team), team in our league will save from 7.1M to 8.8M (depending whether there is or not TB in relegation series).
So profit is still at least around 2M and probably even more.

And I think our league doesn't have extraordinary high wage bills. And I'm also not sure about similar calculation in lower leagues. So I'm not sure about profit/loss comparing wage savings and TV contract lost worldwide.
We will see what happen, but some BB estimation of rise/drop of wage as it was few times in past at time of allstar break would be grateful.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 3/8/2011 3:25:20 AM

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