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87963.20 in reply to 87963.19
Date: 5/4/2009 3:34:33 PM
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could you view some long time U21 players, or 22 year old player who get the step to the NT? The grerman one has an Xp of 3 like nearly all of his teammates in the U21, and most of then play there first NT Season not their third one. And as i was the coach, the veteans don't have an advantage(they pop later then the centers, which most of then has one season less in the NT)

Cause the most NT player are created with a random XP, but if you look at him for example:

/BBWeb/hofplayer.aspx?PlayerID=3064148&teamid=2... - he has 3 XP and a few NT games.


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87963.21 in reply to 87963.17
Date: 5/4/2009 9:37:10 PM
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Don't they gain experience?


nothing to talk about, this gain is very low


Not really that low.

I remain unconvinced of this. Oberortner, a mainstay of the German NT since season 3, is still stuck on inept experience, which is the lowest on my team save the 18 year-olds.

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87963.22 in reply to 87963.21
Date: 5/4/2009 11:48:14 PM
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Don't they gain experience?


nothing to talk about, this gain is very low


Not really that low.

I remain unconvinced of this. Oberortner, a mainstay of the German NT since season 3, is still stuck on inept experience, which is the lowest on my team save the 18 year-olds.


I would argue for the same point looking at my experiencie with Chilean NT.

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87963.23 in reply to 87963.22
Date: 5/5/2009 5:39:26 AM
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so only juice amde different experience :)

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87963.24 in reply to 87963.21
Date: 5/5/2009 10:49:48 AM
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Don't they gain experience?


nothing to talk about, this gain is very low


Not really that low.

I remain unconvinced of this. Oberortner, a mainstay of the German NT since season 3, is still stuck on inept experience, which is the lowest on my team save the 18 year-olds.


Not counting the guys that got added midseason, the USA NT's average XP is 5.4

One of our players is in double digits, one more is close, and most of the rest are at least 5.

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87963.25 in reply to 87963.24
Date: 5/5/2009 11:01:15 AM
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but they are created with random XP, and i see also several guys with XP 10 the last week without NT background :)

Look at guys who play a lot of NT games and are created in the last 4 seasons, or at player you know the XP they are starting with.

Or check the XP before and after the NT matches, if the XP gain is noticeable high you will see ups, i didn't see then in a half of season when i make it - maybe you have more luck. And in this time nearly all players jump from XP 2 to 3, and the first jumps was from players who played 70+ minutes in their club in the past and not the one with nearly 2 season nt experience

Edit: my older guys have also a 5 in Xp in average ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 5/5/2009 11:03:04 AM

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87963.26 in reply to 87963.24
Date: 5/5/2009 11:36:49 AM
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Maybe the USA NT gets special experience points (learning from James, Wade and Bryant perhaps?). The player on my squad with by the far the most experience plays is a member of ... the USA NT.

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87963.27 in reply to 87963.25
Date: 5/5/2009 11:53:56 AM
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Players on newly created teams are random XP, but drafted players are either 1 or 2 - and we're not using any created players.

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Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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87963.28 in reply to 87963.27
Date: 5/5/2009 11:59:33 AM
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not in the first seasons, there are draft with very high Xp and i believe you use them :)

After this point even the undrafted young player have an lower XP, or at least i don't see no one with 6/7 in Xp from start

Last edited by CrazyEye at 5/5/2009 12:00:21 PM

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87963.30 in reply to 87963.29
Date: 5/5/2009 1:07:46 PM
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Players on newly created teams are random XP, but drafted players are either 1 or 2 - and we're not using any created players.

On the other hand, if a decent player is created at 18 with high experience, this can be a slam dunk.


That's certainly interesting. On the other hand, drafted players with high sublevels of XP might be the answer for USA. I have two 20yo players with 3xp, similar to others players of the chilean U21 or even senior team with 21.

Maybe the Nt games give much more experiencia than a regular league game but since the effect of playing one game (around 33 minutes for a starter) is so low, that even if actual NT games are more importante, the overall benefit from being in a NT is to low to be considered as critic. It might be better, but not that much better.

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