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I welcome the change since the current situation favors 18 year olds.

1. In the drafts in my league I don't see anyone ranking 70 TSP 19 year olds over 60 TSP 18 year olds with everything else equal.

2. Majority (80+%) of 150+ TSP players I see were drafted as 18 year olds. This goes to 100% for 160 TSP players.

3. China NT only has 1 out of 17 players drafted as 19 year old.

But I get your point that the change done should not be too drastic. I believe that even with the new changes, we won't see 100 TSP 19 year olds. Otherwise, I would draft them over 18 year olds too :)

I second your opinion. Since the changes where 19yo's started having skills of 8, we've only seen a single player with 78+ tsp being drafted. I can only recall that he was canadian and subMVP potential. So I really don't understand the commotion here.

And it's crazy to me that we've been taking an example of a player with all skills being 9.999. Of course he's going to be better than the 18yolds. Player with all 8.999 is also going to be better than 18yolds in the long run. But come on? What are the odds of that happening?


100% there are different weights to roll certain skills, or they have different floor/ceilings according to draftee statlines. It's protected from being overpowered.


(49554111). Here's an abnormality. Most of the time we don't see such quality 19y olds, and lets make his 8's to 9's.
Now we have him and a 18yo that hit the same lottery with the 7's and that's been trained with a 6/6 1x1 for a whole season(+16tsp):

9/9 9/7
9/9 7/12
5/9 12/7
6/5 8/5
6/5 6/5

with the TSP of 72 vs 78. And guess what? In general, they're the exact same thing time-wise. Which was the whole purpose of this change. To simply balance out stuff.

Last edited by Kritulys at 8/30/2021 3:31:43 AM

entropy in action.

It is called power creep in games. And it is very sad, it is like adding new characters into dying TV show. Sign of dysfunction and desperativity, last kicks before sudden death.

I have been playing in these times where average draft was like 35 tsp Star potential

In my opinion BB should avoid at all costs power creep. This is a turn to a wrong direction. We are already seeing negative impacts on the market where 140tsp guards without or with low secondaries at ages 30+ are worth close to nothing. This trend cannot continue without negative impact on whole economy.

Last edited by Vilkai [LTU NT] at 8/30/2021 2:42:03 PM

We are already seeing negative impacts on the market where 140tsp guards without or with low secondaries at ages 30+ are worth close to nothing. This trend cannot continue without negative impact on whole economy.

30+ 140tsp guards are worth close to nothing because their salaries are too high, only a minority of first division teams can afford their wages, and it's not worthy to spend much on a player whose skills will drop or start dropping soon. so there's not much to do with training or draft skills.

It's very understandable your Anxiety about these announced changes sir... but they actually didn't have told what the formula for the 19 yo TSP improvement... if it really is a maxed 90 TSP that will be randomly distributed to the 10 main skills... and the probability of having that kind of player will still be the same as having an ATG player... Not just like to the other Announcement that Jump Shot and Jump Range become a small part of the Freethrow equation...

the last change in the STA brings some slight difficulties on getting 48 minutes to some players... hope they can also resolve this too soon...