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I think Demian is referring to the resurrection of FA's that left the game a few seasons ago. Not the usual FA's that come every week.

The return of retired players to the transfer list as Free Agents was announced in the News more than one month ago. So, I don´t think this is such a surprise.

It was announced after the measure was taken not before. That dinamic is what I am blaming, not the measure itself.

The point now is not the announcement of something we already knew, but the not-announce of something nobody knew: "the increase in the number of retired players who are listed as FAs".

That is not trivial.

Last edited by Zero, the Magi. at 11/7/2009 11:54:15 AM

As a LA, I must read carefully the News, and I know few people read them in detail.
Maybe I am wrong but this:

As a result of this combination, many players who as recently as a few weeks ago would opt for retirement when their former team went belly-up now want to go back on the transfer market, since they and their agents get to pocket all the money. If prices continue to rise, it might even be enough to lure some player out of retirement in search of one last payday. As prices fall again, players on disbanding teams will again be able to find something better to do with their time.

I understand exactly what is happening now. Retired players (not just players from team recently disappeared) will come back to "live". Maybe a little bit late because Halloween was last weekend.
Anyway, the first Free Agent release have had very small impact in prices, and this should be a second attempt to stop this trend.

So what kind of News items are you expecting then? Please make an example of one, I'm sure the BBs could use it as feedback.

Something like?

Week 1; 5 FA released, Week 2 25 released, Week 3, 15 released, Week 4 15 released. Beware the average market price will go down from 1,5m to 1,2m. So please sell all your players right now!

Since currently the last economic news item doesn't contain any information about exact numbers, just the released of FA and the self regulation of the global income starting at the salary update of season 10-->11 offeason.

Also the BBs already announced in the same news item that the amount of released FAs would increase or decrease if needed. As you saw (if you ever looked at the TL last weeks) the prices weren't going down, actually there still was a small inflation I believe.

As a result of this combination, many players who as recently as a few weeks ago would opt for retirement when their former team went belly-up now want to go back on the transfer market, since they and their agents get to pocket all the money. If prices continue to rise, it might even be enough to lure some player out of retirement in search of one last payday. As prices fall again, players on disbanding teams will again be able to find something better to do with their time.

not-announce of something nobody knew: "the increase in the number of retired players who are listed as FAs".

How are the BB's able to predict how many teams would leave the game and how the market changes would lure more retired players back into the game, in turn, effecting how many FA's there are? There's too many variables for them to see exactly what is going to happen, same as it is for us.

I can understand that it might suck if the market turns one way or another and hurts the choices that you made. But, it's the same for everyone. I don't expect FA's to have a major effect on prices, but if I spent a huge sum on a player recently (which I did) and it turns out I should have waited a bit I'm not going to blame the BB's.

Last edited by brian at 11/7/2009 12:08:47 PM

Well try to sell someone and then speak. Thank you. These waves may even remove the possibility to sell players for living teams - i.e. rebuilding.

I have no clue what you're trying to say. Could you be a bit more specific please.

You can't really argue by the news. Some changes was announced and not made (defenses). BBs are unpredictable to some extent.

The fact it happens now (in terms of parts of season) is really awful. I think natural rises and drops of pricing throughout the season should stay. Now, buyers have advantage, sellers (not daytraders) are screwed becaused psychologically many prefers to buy a FA rather than a normal player. Now we could have x times more of them instead normal value - market will be screwed and unbalanced.

Now, buyers have advantage, sellers (not daytraders) are screwed

How about this novel idea:

Invest your money in the most competitive team you can afford, try to win as many games as you can. You will get more attendance, maybe more playoff or cup games, etc. If you invest in the right players/staff for your team you will likely increase your net income. When you have made alittle bit of money, use that to upgrade a starter or add a good young trainee.

In this case you'll probably be selling and buying at the same time, so you'll be mostly unaffected by inflation/deflation. I can't feel sorry for someone that sits on a pile of cash and then suddenly has less buying power cause of inflation, or plans on selling off their players to build up a big pile of cash but then the market decreases and causes that to be a poor plan. If you want to try playing the market then don't complain when it doesn't go your way.

not-announce of something nobody knew: "the increase in the number of retired players who are listed as FAs".

How are the BB's able to predict how many teams would leave the game and how the market changes would lure more retired players back into the game, in turn, effecting how many FA's there are? There's too many variables for them to see exactly what is going to happen, same as it is for us.

I can understand that it might suck if the market turns one way or another and hurts the choices that you made. But, it's the same for everyone. I don't expect FA's to have a major effect on prices, but if I spent a huge sum on a player recently (which I did) and it turns out I should have waited a bit I'm not going to blame the BB's.

I think the same here. Changes are equal to everyone so I don't say that these changes are design to hurt specific people or anything like that. I also think that is part of your skill as a manager to be able to ride the changes.

To be honest, I have not made any proposal about how to inform managers. Not that I have to.

Again, my point is, I believe BBs should inform us better when it comes to strategic thinks like these. If two weeks ago BBs told us that they might be increasing the amount of FA and one week ago told us that there is going to be an increment, you could decide with the right information whether to sell your player or not. With the information they provide us now, you have to make a blind call. With better information you can try to figure how the market will respond and based on your judgement, make a decision.

My concern is that many people, like you, have to make blind calls when it comes to this sort of situations. The outcome of this does not depend on your skill(or how good where your judgements). They depend on BBs calls who currently only them know.

Maybe the way I am heading this is not what BBs want for their game. Maybe It will start to unbalance the game into a financial game instead a basketball game and that something they might not want.

Last edited by Zero, the Magi. at 11/7/2009 6:00:54 PM

That is actually what I am doing this novel idea...

I am here from end of Season 6, you cant blame me to stockpiling money.