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262725.19 in reply to 262725.18
Date: 9/26/2014 5:00:07 AM
rimmers
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Agreed, it's kind of like disadvantaging yourself to prevent a possible, yet unlikely, disadvantage. Your conceeding that you will just be disadvantaged

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262725.20 in reply to 262725.17
Date: 9/26/2014 3:23:03 PM
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I agree that you need a third trainee, who you are willing to give less minutes to if necessary. But you should try to give all 3 48 training minutes per week, because, why not?

This is my position
Only been 2 times people did not get 48 mins all season. And it was 2 different guys. Imo by not naming 2 guys in the training position you can lose heaps of mins. Guy gets injured early. Most the time you get 48 for 3 guys but sometimes you don't.

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262725.21 in reply to 262725.20
Date: 9/26/2014 6:17:24 PM
rimmers
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Looking at your trainees mins I can't see one week where all 3 of your trainees got 48mins single position using this strategy? Can you explain how it's been working for your trainees?

To get 48mins for all 3 in single position, you'd have to fluke them getting the same mins in 2 consecutive games.

Last edited by whitewind at 9/26/2014 6:24:10 PM

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262725.22 in reply to 262725.19
Date: 9/26/2014 9:13:28 PM
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yer this is all true, i think focusing on 2 trainee's is as much of a psychological thing as it is practical.

Having only 2 trainee's makes it much more clearer about what your goals are for each individual player, and provide less distraction for getting them minutes or training something that goes against your training plan.

What I prefer to do, is have 2 younger trainee's that I can maximize the 48 mins against, and then I have an older trainee whom gets the supplimental minutes.
So at the moment i have Nash and Bellard and im smashing ID and SB. but ill throw in 1n1 for forwards every now again. My third trainee is Phil who is 25, but has MVP potential (and he was a SF prospect) - so he gets the minutes - but only sometimes because im not willing to sacrifice my league position just so that he gets minutes at C.

so yer, sometimes i have 3 trainee's, sometimes not. Bellard is not good enough at the moment to play in league games, and Nash only become good enough halfway through the season, so its made it difficult, especially because I was also in the cup

So i think having 3 trainee's is possible, but it depends on the state of your trainee's, and your league expectations. But for, Div II with 3 x 18 or 19 year olds who are brand new trainee's - your league and cup success is extremely limited.

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262725.23 in reply to 262725.21
Date: 9/27/2014 3:06:17 AM
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Well you are missing the fact I did 2 position training a lot this season by design. You disagree. That you are allowed to do. But trying to get a new manager to training to attempt to find and train 3 decent trainees is not a good idea to me.

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262725.24 in reply to 262725.23
Date: 9/27/2014 3:13:18 AM
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Na, it's pretty easy.

Game 1: First trainee plays 48
Game 2: Second trainee plays 48
Game 3: Third trainee plays 48. If one of the first two missed out on a fair chunk of minutes, switch to dual position training (rebounding/one on one/JS) and play that trainee in a training spot. If the third trainee misses out on minutes in the scrim, shrug your shoulders and move on.

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262725.25 in reply to 262725.24
Date: 9/27/2014 5:07:42 AM
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Exactly. Easy. And yes, that's how I'd be getting trainers to train players, because it works. .

Mickyster, certainly didn't miss that you've done some 2 position training, I'm asking you to show evidence that your method works for 48mins for 3 trainees, which you claimed it has all season except twice.. after all, we are recommending to this new trainer to one position train ;)

You've done some passing training and OD with Rudd and peachey, who was your third trainee and how many mins did he get in single position?

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262725.26 in reply to 262725.25
Date: 9/27/2014 7:08:38 AM
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Ivan Nicklaus 9 pops this season
Jmaie Langley 4 pops this seasona
And had an other guy I drafted and sold off

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262725.27 in reply to 262725.26
Date: 9/27/2014 7:20:13 AM
rimmers
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Ha ha, nice one.

Pity they didn't get full training, they could've been great trainees!

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262725.28 in reply to 262725.27
Date: 9/27/2014 7:49:03 AM
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haha they are Ivan is coming along great and Jamie was drafted as a 19 year old. Been mostly a add on trainee.
I have hope of Ivan playing NT after 21 NT last season. Without going through everything I think one week Ivan missed 9 mins but still got his pop in training that week. The other person to miss minutes was Rudd.
Jamie only joins in on 2 position training.

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262725.29 in reply to 262725.28
Date: 9/27/2014 8:01:23 AM
rimmers
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And as 3rd trainee(s??), how have their single position trainings gone once your main 2 trainees have got full minutes?

Don't let the pops fool you on weeks you don't give them full minutes, you've still missed out on significant training!

Last edited by whitewind at 9/27/2014 8:05:42 AM

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