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Is BB dying a slow death - Part Two

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275697.189 in reply to 275697.167
Date: 3/31/2016 10:57:20 PM
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Basketball GM is excellent, if it wasnt for the very slow simulation after a couple seasons... I think a multiplayer version exists.


Ya, the data builds up fast since its all stored on your computer (no servers). In case you don't know, the site allows you to clear the data to speed up the simulation when it starts slowing down. Also, I've read about multiplayer leagues, but I'm pretty sure those leagues work by having a single person running it and everyone else just emails him when they want to make moves.

I think if the developer built a regular multiplayer version, it would be very successful. I do like how he seems quite involved with the community and regularly updates the game.

From: Knecht

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275697.190 in reply to 275697.188
Date: 4/1/2016 4:34:50 AM
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This whole "what have you done for me lately" discussion is useless.

As there is no incentive for me to advertise the game, I'm just stating that nobody should count on me to get word on the streets. If BBs offers little to no value to managers who advertise the game, BB wont get many people to put in the extra work. Thats no cynicism, sarcasm or whatever type of negativity some might read into my comment.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Date: 4/1/2016 5:37:51 AM
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A month supporter (value $4) for 40 referrals. Doubling Austria would be worth like six dollars.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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275697.196 in reply to 275697.195
Date: 4/1/2016 9:06:46 AM
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I don't know how much your word means to you. I thought you said you'd stay away from the discussion. If I say something like that, I do it.

The above went like this:
1. Someone who does not usually use the forums wrote a post with a sensible suggestion about how to promote the game. This is RELEVANT to this thread. This is spot on on TOPIC. This is CONSTRUCTIVE.
2. God forbid. You came out right away and asked why he couldn't do it himself? This is NOT constructive. Note that you did NOT discuss whether the suggestion itself had merit, you were only out to get someone who dared to suggest that the management should consider an idea
3. Knecht weighed in and said users don't have any meaningful incentive by the game to do things like this on their own. At this point you had already reached your objective since you successfully managed to derail the conversation from "this is a good idea" to "why don't you do things like this on your own"
4. You say that increasing users is a big enough reward. Nobody really challenged the underlying assumption that working for free would produce results, but that's fine
5. Knecht explained it won't make a difference in his country even if he dedicated himself to promote the game for free
6. At this point I had enough of you acting as some kind of Mother Theresa and I pointed out that, logically, if you really believe what you are asking others to do is worthwhile, you can surely show everyone you have done in the past or tell us what exactly you're planning to do to promote BB for free, which is exactly what you are asking others to do.

Note that I CHOSE not to comment after number 2 and I did only after you insisted. The same way I gave hrudey the benefit of the doubt in the FA thread before commenting. And the same way I refrained from posting further there after I collected 5 threads worth of comments from 7-8 years ago regarding the issue.


You missed a little bit of it. A more accurate timeline is:

1. Someone who isn't active in the global forums as much as the local forums did have a sensible suggestion.
2. Knecht responded to it with "Whats the incentive to do so? 4 weeks supporter? Yeehaaaaa.."
3. Manon answered knecht: more users in the game".
4. a couple of posts on an earlier discussion from O Bear and justme.
5. Knecht says that users need to be rewarded for doing the work of promoting the game.
6. Manon says "if you don't want new users, I don't know what to say."
and so on.

Now, your assertion is that coachlambini made a suggestion, and Manon immediately came out and asked why he couldn't do it himself. That is absolutely, undeniably false - coachlambini made his post, knecht immediately dismissed it, and Manon engaged Knecht. I'm sure that was an honest mistake and that you'll appreciate the correction.


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