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From: LennuK.

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Date: 5/7/2025 2:01:33 AM
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Hey Wagner, my plan is to get rid of the 3 non-HG players on the roster independent of the outcome of the regular season. So, I am basically guaranteeing that I will be fully HG with my roster for the next season. Although, ideally, I hope to survive the second division from a low league rank this season and the next one I would then tank, as I would still need this one extra season to get some of my players trained to a higher level before getting my hands on some real jewels (hopefully) from the draft. But we will see how this works out

I followed the HG-threads at the beginning of your current HGL season, so I theoretically am familiar with these. Though at some point before the next season begins, I would go through them again just to refresh it. I truly believe that playing with a HG team is a fun challenge, especially if you still try to stay competitive to some degree and maybe even have some U21 or even NT players in the roster at some point.

From: LennuK.

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The Estonian forums are unfortunately (almost) completely inactive apart from the NT forums. We ourselves call us “lone tinkerers (omaette nokitseja)” so that’s why I guess. However, I could try to make a thread there on HG teams and ask around for anyone interested for the HGL if you would like. Maybe such an active approach would give some potential HG managers some motivation.

The draft week tends to be one of these that I anticipate the most as well, always refreshing the roster page just to see if I got my preferred picks. And I am sure that you can rebuild your team around the couple of nice-looking young guns in your roster after your top players start aging.

From: Wagner

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Date: 5/7/2025 5:23:25 AM
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Fresh batch of HGL Offensive and Defensive (Opponent) Team Stats, reflecting team performance in HGL matches after Round 9 of play have just been "taken out of the oven", here you are: (326590.9)!

Again, naturally some changes in team positions (not to mention values) have occurred since last update (which took place after Round 6), so please check out how your team is doing in some of the most common, or in some of the special/advanced stats categories!

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From: Wagner

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Hey Wagner, my plan is to get rid of the 3 non-HG players on the roster independent of the outcome of the regular season. So, I am basically guaranteeing that I will be fully HG with my roster for the next season. Although, ideally, I hope to survive the second division from a low league rank this season and the next one I would then tank, as I would still need this one extra season to get some of my players trained to a higher level before getting my hands on some real jewels (hopefully) from the draft. But we will see how this works out :D

Excellent to hear, it's great your plans are already locked in place in terms of becoming a HG team! Sounds like a good plan, and I hope those jewels you ordered are being delivered... I have also ordered some, but Finnish postal company has done a lousy work recent years in delivering them xD

I followed the HG-threads at the beginning of your current HGL season, so I theoretically am familiar with these. Though at some point before the next season begins, I would go through them again just to refresh it. I truly believe that playing with a HG team is a fun challenge, especially if you still try to stay competitive to some degree and maybe even have some U21 or even NT players in the roster at some point.

Also, nice to hear about this, as you're probably well aware of the league practices/rules already. And of course we will be here to give guidance on some of the practices. Having a one year experience on getting the league up and running should make this even easier experience this time, especially as most managers are returning ones (and for instance you seem to have familiarized yourself with main HGL rules/practices already).

It's absolutely a fun (and at those moments when it necessarily doesn't feel only fun, then at least challenging and rewarding in a good way) challenge to play with a HG team, and I'm always very glad to hear when some people share this same view! And like you said, if you can remain homegrown and have at least decent success in your regular BB league and HGL and at the same time even have some U21NT/NT players, that's quite a nice achievement... So much so, that there should be some official BB achievement available for that! :D

From: Wagner

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The Estonian forums are unfortunately (almost) completely inactive apart from the NT forums. We ourselves call us “lone tinkerers (omaette nokitseja)” so that’s why I guess. :)

I have a strong feeling that there's a high probability you already know that we Finns also share the same mentality in general, so I think I know exactly what you mean... And our forums have gone almost dead nowadays in Finland as well, after most of the discussion has (apparently and) very unfortunately moved to discord.
However, I could try to make a thread there on HG teams and ask around for anyone interested for the HGL if you would like. Maybe such an active approach would give some potential HG managers some motivation.

I've had that same thought earlier in terms of active forum approach (and if my memory serves me, actually suggested that earlier on Homegrown Teams II thread I think), as I was thinking how to raise more awareness and interest on HG style of play/mentality. So basically I think that's a very good idea, and you're definitely welcome to do so if you want to make the effort.

Actually, all us HGL managers, especially us who play in countries where the first official language isn't English, would be very welcome to do that, as I suspect that would raise more interest towards HGL, and some players might not even be aware of HGL due to not being able to read English on a sufficient level. (Of course, if such manager would then join and if I couldn't write on their language, they would be then dependent on this referring/tutoring HGL manager to explain rules and practices to them, which is of course an added layer of challenge - but I was just throwing an idea out, that might help creating more awareness/interest).

It's just that currently we have somewhat limited capability to expand (due to extreme increase in manual work if amount of teams would increase significantly), but ground work/raising interest levels/awareness levels never produces a 100% return in terms of creating future HGL participants, so I think it's safe to do that kind of ground work (in terms of raising awareness levels and asking of potential interest levels on each countries forums) to see if there's even bigger interest that hasn't yet come into light.
One example could be manager of Home-Grown team Hårdboll, Spela, who is a very long term HG manager, and still apparently just recently found out about our Official HGL Threads. So if not even all HG managers know of HGL, there must be some potential with this active forum approach. :)

However, this is the kind of league that demands certain level of commitment, and takes some amount of work even from a regular manager (especially before the season setup, and organizing playoff matches each week), so it's not ever going to be suitable for just about anyone who just simply wants to set up everything once and then forget it. And commitment and willingness to stick with rules/practices is also necessary in order to keep HGL fair and fun to play for all, and "not make it wrong kind of play field" as I've wrote before.

The draft week tends to be one of these that I anticipate the most as well, always refreshing the roster page just to see if I got my preferred picks. And I am sure that you can rebuild your team around the couple of nice-looking young guns in your roster after your top players start aging.

I hope you're right, but to be honest with you, I don't think my economy would take it well if I'd be relegated (I'm currently going for 100 own draftees in a team!), so I've definitely had to prioritize surviving in the league and not getting the best draft picks possible, as I can't afford to be relegated... And as I'm playing on second highest level, being able to draft on positions 6-12 doesn't give you many "jewels" in average, I'm afraid. I would've needed 2-4 of those jewels already 3-5 seasons ago... :/

From: Hadár

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Date: 5/7/2025 1:58:39 PM
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Fresh batch of HGL Offensive and Defensive (Opponent) Team Stats, reflecting team performance in HGL matches after Round 9 of play have just been "taken out of the oven", here you are: (326590.9)!


Great work ;)

From: Wagner

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Fresh batch of HGL Offensive and Defensive (Opponent) Team Stats, reflecting team performance in HGL matches after Round 9 of play have just been "taken out of the oven", here you are: (326590.9)!


Great work ;)

Thanks Hadár, I'm glad to hear that you enjoy them! :)

From: cthulhu

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Season 2 sounds great to me! I'm in.

From: Wagner

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Season 2 sounds great to me! I'm in.

That's excellent news, thank you very much for your reply!

From: Wagner

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i'm in for season 2!

...and just after your announcement, you were able to pull off one of biggest upset wins in HGL so far, as Heywood Big Dogs ($520K top8 salaries, 8 wins and 1 loss before Round 10) collapsed finally on 3rd quarter losing that by 20, and last quarter comeback attempt against Chucarro's Club Trouville (top 8 salaries $216K, 2W-7L before round 10) fell 9 points short of overtime!

To be fair, though, just as Deano25 earlier mentioned, top8-salary is maybe not very optimal in comparing whole team efficiency/competitiveness (as more equally balanced teams in terms of salary might often be more successful, but please remember he's also thinking of the benefit of team Australia, as he is training players for Australian national team), if team has for instance two very expensive players who take massive chunk of the top8 budget.
And HEY has won 2 matches this season only by 1 point, so I guess it was inevitable, that someone else than either of top 2 teams might be able to beat them this season.

Another really tight match was between underdog Madrid Chotis (211K, 4W-5L previously) and Rajdersi (305K, 5W-4L previously) - so another victory for Rajdersi in a tight match. We Finns surely won't forget his recent Round 7 win (against Suuret Muinaiset, by 2 points)... But actually this was already Rajdersi's 5th (!) match of the season, which was decided by 5 points or less (and from those 5 matches 3 wins and 2 losses as a result) - what an exciting Season 1 in Poland so far!

So, no changes in positions on league table after Round 10 of play (if we don't count cosmetical swap of places between SRS and BIG due to scoring difference comparison, but real determining factor between them will somewhat likely be Round 12 match on May 16th), but with an upset win Club Trouville is now a one win ahead of Lielupes Melnas Sirdis and Buckner Bandits in a fight for the last playoff position.
And I guess loss for Heywood Big Dogs made reaching 3rd position on Regular Season feeling bit more realistic for some teams (despite huge top8 salary), as there are now 3 teams within one win of HEY - only team of those that hasn't still lost to HEY and still has a possibility to seal a winning record (and therefore automatically better Regular Season ranking) against HEY is Suuret Muinaiset, as HEY vs. SUM will be played on May 16th!

Rajdersi, currently at 6W-4L also has a match left against HEY on Round 14, so theoretically they also have a chance to finish 3rd, especially as they were able to beat SUM earlier by 2 points and are ahead of SUM if they will end up having equal number of wins... I have a feeling we're going to have couple of interesting equal amounts of wins-kind of situations at the end of the Regular Season! :)

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From: Wagner

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Date: 5/12/2025 6:37:51 AM
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It's time for Round 11 of 15 of Regular Season - we're definitely getting closer to key times of the year, as we're "fighting" for best possible HGL Playoff positions!

Please remember, that 4 best teams will automatically qualify for Second Round of Playoffs, without even stepping on the court...
And for most lower ranked (lower than top 4) teams, most importantly remember that home court advantage is already in use for First Round of HGL Playoffs, which take place between teams from 4th to 12th position, so in other words teams ranked from 4th to 7th will receive a precious home court advantage for the First Round of Playoffs, which could be one of the decisive factors!

As for Round 11 matches, we will have very important and supposedly quite close one (in terms of score, based on top8 salaries) between Lielupes Melnas Sirdis (13th in league table; 2 wins-8 losses so far) and Club Trouville (12th; 3W-7L; TRO was able to snatch a win against one of the top ranked teams, HEY, on Round 10). Obviously this match is especially important for LMS, as by winning they would be able to even their win-loss record with TRO, and take a hold of the last (12th) Playoff position!

Also I'm looking forward to meeting Madrid Chotis today, as they also could even up the W-L record with my team by beating me - while I have a $59K higher Top8-salaries compared to Madrid Chotis, I'm expecting this to be quite even match, especially as one of my key players seems to be in less than ideal game shape this week.

Another interesting one could be HEY vs. HAD, a clash between teams with Top 8-salary ranks number 1 (HAD; $639K) and number 3 (HEY; $520K). Their Top2 player salaries are huge, and actually very close to each other, but HAD (Svätý Jur Snakers) have higher level players on salary ranks from 3rd to 8th.
Whether or not this is going to be a close call or not, it's nevertheless interesting to see the actual score (team level difference currently) between most expensive and 3rd most expensive team in HGL.
Good luck to each one of you for Round 11 matches!

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