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282822.18 in reply to 282822.13
Date: 11/16/2016 11:00:17 AM
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What are your 176 games ? French D2 now and ten seasons ago ? It is a good start for data collecting (way better than one game lol), but statistical deviation and uncertainties must still be computed ;) Try to avoid league with too much tankers as it could corrupt the information.
Don't cop out and own it please. If I have to do the work, I'd like you to be fair.

Well it is strange to see you criticize my offer for 176 games study while basing first your demand on one extreme game lol. But I will take that as a victory that you change from 1 game sample to 176 games with a serious methodology

I criticise it because you talk about doing a statistical exercise and in order to do that, you'd need more information and more data points. 176 games is not a great sample. An NBA season has 1230 games. I never meant my points to have a statistical foundation, I always treated it as an outlier, but something it shouldn't happen in a game based on RNG where a 0 FT shooter has exactly 0 career FTM.

So once again, if the game is an outlier (i.e. Marin hasn't done anything in the last couple of seasons in respect of 3pt FG% or GDP effect) then it's one hell of an outlier. If it isn't then I think it's fair we know what changes have been made.

Just to be sure, you claim that both open 3s and contested 3s have increased in 3FG% or only contested 3s ?
I'm claiming that unassisted and mostly guarded 3s went in at a 80% rate through 3 quarters. I'm claiming that there is a very high correlation between assists and 3pt FG% in real life and it should be the same in BB. A team with very few assists shouldn't be able to score at that clip. 26% assist rate is about half of each and every NBA game you linked.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/16/2016 11:03:42 AM

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282822.19 in reply to 282822.18
Date: 11/16/2016 5:59:11 PM
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Why y'all discussing RL probabilities? This is no NBA simulation. Your discussion is beyond useless.
I almost feel triggered to throw in my usual 0% FT or 0 assists rant.

However I feel that a rare occurence of streaky outside shooting does not hurt, although some boxscores have looked fishy to me. If this seems to be a bigger issue I might dig them out.

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282822.23 in reply to 282822.22
Date: 11/17/2016 6:14:46 AM
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I did some further check and unguarded 3pt shots (6 out of 20) by those 3 players were 100% in the game while guarded (14 shots out of 20) were 65%, so the percentages are not reversed and I will need to do some more thinking and carry out more checks to compare averages of both kinds of shots (and it's a lot of work which I will need to make automatic somehow) in the last few seasons, so after the last announcement was made.