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For a college coach, your spelling/grammar/punctuation seem to be awfully suspect at best and downright atrocious at worst. I'm not saying you're definitely not who you say you are, but you'd certainly improve your credibility if you proofread your writing.

Also, plenty of people have tried to come in and speculate about BB according to principles they think are more realistic and more closely parallel real-world basketball. In a lot of cases, they just end up confusing themselves and others with realistic notions. One example that comes to mind: many people (including myself at one point) speculated that a player with high JR would be a better passer and improve his team's overall flow, since his higher shooting would space the floor for his teammates and force his defender to close hard to his jump shot or whatever. However, statistical analysis has shown that this is not the case.

Again i am not speaking as a BB guy ( i am not really) i am speaking as an NCAA basketball coach

As nice as this sounds, it's really actually counterproductive to speculate about BB based on IRL coaching experiences or tactics. Just enjoy BB for what it is: a very nice basketball manager simulation game that does its best to provide a realistic experience but has clear fundamental differences in some areas due to its nature as a simulation.

First to you n the other person. This is a FORUM not a Lit & Comp class. So grammar, spelling, etc aren't being graded. Secondly to the "those that can't do coach"... the saying is those that cant do teach. Coaching and Teaching are 2 very different professions. Teaching doesn't require recruiting, evaluation of talent at a prep level, projection of long term success, establishing strenght and conditioning program, travel to and from games and to and from recruiting events. There's a reason the highest paid teachers dont come close to the highest paid members of the coaching fraternity. (not saying they shouldn't... My mom taught 43 years in public school system! UNDERPAID!!!!) And you probably know but in basketball the percentage at any level D3 to NBA is extremely low for people who attempt to enter coaching having never been a player themselves. but to the point below.

See the confusion i think people have with Lebron is that he didn't increase he clutch ability. He made 1 game winner the entire playoffs. and on his career has an exceptional low P.E.R. in situations where his team is down 1 or 2 with under 2 mins. (Pacers playoff game 2 bad turnovers, missed 2 3s against spurs and had 2 bad turnovers. thus saved by Ray Allen...who has an NBA all time top 5 PER in those same situations. Behind guys like Derrick Fisher & Robert Horry.) So again BB or not clutch isn't making the game winner its your PER in situations under 2 mins in close games. What i was saying in my post to start before we started jumping all over the place with this is that I believe (MY OPINION) that BB has a trait for players that takes into effect "clutch" and somehow increases or decreases a players in game performance in certain situations based on that hidden clutch factor.

This does NOT mean that certain guys always hit game winners, or FTs...But in the last 2 mins turn the ball over less, or get critical steals on possession when the other team is trying to tie or win the game. Block a shot etc. Again just being a basketball mind here reading inbetween the lines of my games. Thats all. is this fact NO, is it backed by some waste of my time in depth analysis NO. Just opinion in response to the original topic.

Thanks for weighing in though i appreciate the conversation about not just the game but also real basketball.

We agree on that. It is a simulation like anything and its a free game that doesn't require daily observation to play. And i do appreciate it. But the start of this topic wasn't by me but someone else. And i was just weighing in with opinion. And that opinion being that like any simulation (Xbox, Playstation, computer, etc.) the developer do try to make things as realistic as possible. Meaning they ask people knowledgable (GMs, current and former players, Coaches, etc.). And the ultimate goal is to create a fun flowing game but part of the fun is that there is some realism and it leads to discussions like this between people who would never in any other walk of life have a common interest or care to read each others opinions. So for that I thank you for you input and agree that non of what we are talking about effects how either of us play this simulation, nor does or should it affect our daily lives.

I think you are onto something, I mean, if experience mattered a ton, Manu Ginobili wouldn't have missed those free throws and we'd have Tony Parker doing the draft interviews not Shane Battier.

Thanks. its not just shot making though. its overall PER (Player Effiecency Rating). Do you make shots, assists, steals, blocks in situations under 2 mins in close games. Or do you turn the ball over, miss shots/FTs, take "bad shots", etc. by the numbers most "clutch" guy meaning how often he came through in those situations Robert Horry (no surprise he has 7 or 8 rings) he wasn't the best player in the league by Any means. But every team 1 player away from a title (Spurs, Lakers, Rockets.) signed him!

The Experience is only applicable in the game but not in real life. In real life, according to sir college coach, is a trait that is not trainable.

So, actually, if we summarize the opinions about the clutch, we can say that their is actually a CLUTCH TRAIT, but we dont know if its a different hidden skill or it is already attach to the experience..