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sorry but good players are not coming from FA...

In January 2008 the price of steel rose 25% overnight around the world. I know because I was building my house at the time. Is that "normal" economy? I don't know but it was real and it happened. Now might be the time to sell your good players and wait for the market to tumble before restocking. Gotta go with the flow, not fight the current.

Some what you've written is different, I've a trading company and I'm working everyday with commodities (even if mostly alluminium and copper) and starting from the 2001 these market are changed a lot due to speculation of merchant banks, here we don't have speculation problem but fresh coins coming from the sky. It's very nice and fun to see the impact in the economy every time there is an update and your suggestion to wait could be perfect but only if there will be less money otherwise we can wait for long long time

so in the short time it seems free agent = no reduction. I can write here that till next season the average price market will not decrease

This can't be true because almost everyone in the first few pages of this thread declared this move would completely drive down prices, causing the end of BB as we know it.

What is not clear at all to me is if this market is acceptable for the BBs and once again I don't know what will happen next season...

I seems that the market has stabilized over the last few weeks. Figure the best thing here would be to see it stay at this level for sometime. If the market seems to dip the easy move would be to remove the FA's again. Eventually they'll be able to adjust salaries to keep things stable.

Last edited by brian at 11/3/2009 4:53:38 PM

How you can say that the prices are growing down and then say that the market is stabilized over the last few weeks? O_o"
Imho the prices are not decreasing the effect of FA is really marginal and it will take long time before to get out from the system huge quantity of money anyway I agree that the prices seem stable now but dunno what will happen in the week before the PO, I see a lot of teams with good "reserves" of money, they can spend it now, in a week or in a month. I can agree with you about your idea to keep this balance but the economy will be frozen till the next salaries update and in that time the level will move up or down.
My personal opinion is that too much money is not good, in Italy we say that money "generate" money and you can see that checking how many arenas are expanding right now, the second problem is that is more easy to trade the players, third and last problem, the game is not so fun in fact you can buy all the best players cause you can pay easily the salaries. These factors could create more gap between the first divisions and the others, anyway is really interesting to check what will be ;)

Imho the prices are not decreasing the effect of FA is really marginal

I agree and was pointing out how all the chicken littles that declared the FA most would have a huge effect where over-reacting. The FA was a good practical, though low impact, move to help stem the extreme inflation we were seeing.

My personal opinion is that too much money is not good

I don't think huge fluctuations are good for the game, but I'm not sure about where the balance should be. In other words, I don't see a big difference between a market that has high average transfers compared to one that has low average transfers. Though I'm usually buying/selling at the same time so for me it mostly evens out.

Imho the prices are not decreasing the effect of FA is really marginal

I agree and was pointing out how all the chicken littles that declared the FA most would have a huge effect where over-reacting. The FA was a good practical, though low impact, move to help stem the extreme inflation we were seeing.

Sadly, with the public data available there is no way to tell the real impact of FAs. What can be said, is that the final effect of many dinamics (including FAs) does not *seems* to be very huge when it comes to stop inflation.

Last edited by Zero, the Magi. at 11/3/2009 10:14:45 PM

you can buy all the best players cause you can pay easily the salaries. These factors could create more gap between the first divisions and the others, anyway is really interesting to check what will be

I don't think it would create a bigger gap. I suspect, and hope, the opposite. If a team with great reserves and good income buy all the best players this would use some or all of the reserves while buying them and lessen the overall income, thus making the gap smaller over time. At first that team will gain an advantage ofcourse, but they should since they just used their reserves and lessened their income.
What is good about that is that it forces the other teams in the same league to invest their savings to stay competitive, and the result is more money out of the game in form of salaries. And also put bigger pressure on the higher divisions, keeping them under pressure to use their money instead of making major parachutes for when the times get tough. Training will also become increasingly hard if you want to stay in the top divisions, forcing teams to buy players that are allready trained to a high level from smaller division teams, also bringing more money from the top div teams.
Some of the transfer amounts goes to FA (out of the game), while some goes to other managers whom then saves or reinvests in new arena (cap on maximum attendants already introduced) or players (some % to FA and out of the game). Also there are the fee you pay when selling.

What I am trying to say is that this raise in the market prices was foreseen as a result of this seasons changes, with arena deconstructions bringing a lot more money into the game in a short period of time. The magnitude was perhaps more uncertain, and that is one of the reasons FA came back until further notice. Stabilising the market must take time, if to many factors to bring money out of the game to fast were introduced, this will also skew the balance and upset a lot of players (too many FA's would hurt those that have the best possibilities to -and are most dependent on training to sell (smaller division teams)).
There are so many factors to the balance of the game, and we have to remember that the main goal is to get a self-adjusting balance. Putting pressure on the top teams may be the key. I think we are moving in the right direction. But I think we all need a little patience.

This week there´re loads of FA´s, I can really understand introducing FA´s in the market but I don´t get the point of adding loads of them near Play-Offs. This year BB economy is being an epic fail and now it can´t change radically cause it would be another injustice (again).

We can asume the market is high, ok, but let it flow this year and with new salaries we´ll see the new situation. So please, add 10-15 FA´s per week but not 30-40 at this point of the season. It makes no sense!!!!

See u



Last edited by Mr.Mac at 11/6/2009 6:15:55 PM

The reason for more free agents i suspect is because as more and more managers get disillusioned with the lack of economic stability they leave the game and in turn leave behind more players that are suitable to add to the free agent list.

Its a catch 22 situation but Im still yet to be convinced if the inflation has or hasnt been accepted by the community. I would watch the overall number of managers in the game and then you can perhaps make an estimation as to how many free agents might be released at any given time.

I wonder if there are any more plans on the horizon to help find another 5-10,000 BB managers?

man, guys retired at season 4 are now on the maket, and never got old, r u kidding me?