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The problem is, most of the NT players are the bests players for a team.

Injured on a NT game, can't be only compensate with the salary paid by the NT, because the player can't play anymore, and the owner have less chances to make good resultats on league.

I'm quite agree with the idea to pay 1/3 of the salary of the player.

The problem is, and it will get worse as the salaries go up, that it will be an enormous advantage to those managers who have NT players. And furthermore, you will have situations in which two players are almost identical in skill, but one will be chosen for the NT (for reasons that are left to the NT managers), and the other won't, which will result in two almost identical players having two very different influences on the economy of a team.
Lastly, it's very possible that a trainer be rewarded money for an injury that will never happen. Which means that over the course of 2 or 3 seasons, he will get hundreds of Ks free for no reason at all.

I really would agree to proposal that if player gets an injury in NT match so all his injury period NT pays all his wage... Don`t pay money for not injured players... And give big boost in experience for them ...


This Idea I like most... Congrats to that user who suggested this one...

I agree ;)

I think the arguments about 2 identical players where 1 gets the reduction is just nonsense. It happens always and everywhere that 2 identical players have a different influence at the economy.

When you put 2 players with all the same stats (so even the same %FG, wage etc)on the transferlist they will not sell for the same price. Maybe 1 will be sold for 150k more than the other, it just depends on the moment, if there is a bidwar or not or whatever. The team who sold it for 150k less isn't compensated as well. That's just the economy.

About the experience, it's funny to read that many want an increase in experience, but yet nobody knows what it does.. An increase in experience would be nice, but I don't have a clue what's the advantage of a higher experience. It should have an effect, yes, but for now my prominent experienced guy is playing worse than my awful experienced guy, while they have about the same stats.

Maybe we should keep the NT games as it is now, no salary reduction, no injury effect, no or little experience, just arcade mode.

And if there will be salary reduction, then it should be for every game. Someone said that you'll only need salary reduction when he gets injured, but I think that's not enough for the manager. I wouldn't want a player in the NT if he always plays with the risk for injuries, without being compensated. Then the chance to lose a keyplayer is way bigger, while you will only get a small amount of $$.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 4/12/2008 7:30:25 AM

I think the arguments about 2 identical players where 1 gets the reduction is just nonsense. It happens always and everywhere that 2 identical players have a different influence at the economy.

When you put 2 players with all the same stats (so even the same %FG, wage etc)on the transferlist they will not sell for the same price. Maybe 1 will be sold for 150k more than the other, it just depends on the moment, if there is a bidwar or not or whatever. The team who sold it for 150k less isn't compensated as well. That's just the economy.

This is all very interesting but it has nothing to do with the argument at hand. What I am saying is that if two managers have a player with the same skill, but one is friends with the manager of the NT (or better yet IS the maneger of the NT) of those players, one will be payed a certain salary by one manager, and the other will be payed much less by the other manager.

This is all very interesting but it has nothing to do with the argument at hand. What I am saying is that if two managers have a player with the same skill, but one is friends with the manager of the NT (or better yet IS the maneger of the NT) of those players, one will be payed a certain salary by one manager, and the other will be payed much less by the other manager.

I guess I don't really get your point, if there are 2 identical players and you only want to select one, the other one will always be 'discriminated', friends or not.

There are dozens of possible scenarios where things like this can happen, although the frequency is very low.
Lets say when injuries can happen in NT matches and the NT coach needs to play the playoff final against another team with only homegrown players. He can select all those players for the NT, and let them play. So that some of them might be injuried at the playoff final. That's another crazy idea right?

These scenarios are all rare, they won't happen much. So not adding new features, because one of these crazy scenarios might happen once, is crazy if you ask me.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 4/12/2008 9:41:51 AM

This is all very interesting but it has nothing to do with the argument at hand. What I am saying is that if two managers have a player with the same skill, but one is friends with the manager of the NT (or better yet IS the maneger of the NT) of those players, one will be payed a certain salary by one manager, and the other will be payed much less by the other manager.

I guess I don't really get your point, if there are 2 identical players and you only want to select one, the other one will always be 'discriminated', friends or not.

There are dozens of possible scenarios where things like this can happen, although the frequency is very low.
Lets say when injuries can happen in NT matches and the NT coach needs to play the playoff final against another team with only homegrown players. He can select all those players for the NT, and let them play. So that some of them might be injuried at the playoff final. That's another crazy idea right?

These scenarios are all rare, they won't happen much. So not adding new features, because one of these crazy scenarios might happen once, is crazy if you ask me.

Exactly. My example doesn't necessarily have to include unsportsmanlike conduct. It can just happen that one player gets called and another similar one doesn't. the maneger of the one that does get called will have an enormous advantage over the other maneger. The better the player the higher the advantage.

But this happens with everything. Right now if you have 2 identical players and 1 is in the NT, the one in the NT will be sold for a higher price than the other because he got 'the flag'.

When there are NT's you will see 'problems' like this.

But being sold at a higher price, first of all, is not a certainty (and if it is, how higher he is sold is variable), secondly, it only happens when the player is sold, meaning it's a one-time advantage for each manager.
The reward for an eventual injury is a fixed weekly bonus that the manager would have for two, three, or maybe even more seasons. Let's say a manager has two NT players with a combined salary of 80K. If he gets even a 33% bonus, that's 26K a week. That's more than 350K a year. Imagine if the players are called in the NT for 3 or 4 straight seasons. We're talking about a 1-1,5 million dollar bonus for potentially absolutely nothing. And even if the player does get injured with the NT for a couple of weeks, that's still WAY too much money.