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The only issue with hoarding money is you need to compete to stay afloat. So, if you can compete while saving your money, then good. Otherwise, you need to get into the market, for better or for worse.

I am not upset about the sharp price movements....it is more upsetting to see players with no secondaries trading hands for large money. It seems anyone that has spent time training a more balanced player is not getting the real premium deserved for the time they have spent training.

Having said that, I am confident when the 'carp hits the fan' it will only be the players with secondaries that hold up anywhere near their value in the market and anyone that has spent lavishly on a mono-skilled guy will feel the pinch..... sadly the reprucussions of this or any manager who feels he's bought at the top of the market to find out (after the BB announcement to diffuse inflation) will be lost managers as they will feel they have less chance of improving the gap between themselves and those above.

Ironically I am trying to sell or will be very soon but I feel the guys I've earmarked to sell are rising in value more per week than their actual salary....can you please not make any deflationary announcements til the play-offs :D

I completely agree. The problem is that many managers do not have a decent idea of how to value and/or train players. They see one skill in the green and think- i need him on my team - even though the guy can't pass, can't defend, can't handle the ball etc. I have seen a lot of players on the market who couldn't have made my starting five in season 4 selling for 3.5 million because they have 18+ in JS. I would never buy a player like that, but lots of people will, so congrats to those who are making money on those kinds of players. In the end, having a team of balanced players (Quadruple prodigious for teams like yours and quadruple average for teams like mine...) is what wins games so hopefully people will realize that and not give up the big bucks for bad players.

I suggest to increase amount of free agents, because right now there are only few good FA on TL, BB should put more FA on TL then prices will go down a little bit...I am seeking for a good center for some few weeks and prices are ridicilous...because there is not a good supply of good players.

BB's pls inrease amount of FA.

sorry but good players are not coming from FA...

In January 2008 the price of steel rose 25% overnight around the world. I know because I was building my house at the time. Is that "normal" economy? I don't know but it was real and it happened. Now might be the time to sell your good players and wait for the market to tumble before restocking. Gotta go with the flow, not fight the current.

Some what you've written is different, I've a trading company and I'm working everyday with commodities (even if mostly alluminium and copper) and starting from the 2001 these market are changed a lot due to speculation of merchant banks, here we don't have speculation problem but fresh coins coming from the sky. It's very nice and fun to see the impact in the economy every time there is an update and your suggestion to wait could be perfect but only if there will be less money otherwise we can wait for long long time

so in the short time it seems free agent = no reduction. I can write here that till next season the average price market will not decrease

This can't be true because almost everyone in the first few pages of this thread declared this move would completely drive down prices, causing the end of BB as we know it.

What is not clear at all to me is if this market is acceptable for the BBs and once again I don't know what will happen next season...

I seems that the market has stabilized over the last few weeks. Figure the best thing here would be to see it stay at this level for sometime. If the market seems to dip the easy move would be to remove the FA's again. Eventually they'll be able to adjust salaries to keep things stable.

Last edited by brian at 11/3/2009 4:53:38 PM

How you can say that the prices are growing down and then say that the market is stabilized over the last few weeks? O_o"
Imho the prices are not decreasing the effect of FA is really marginal and it will take long time before to get out from the system huge quantity of money anyway I agree that the prices seem stable now but dunno what will happen in the week before the PO, I see a lot of teams with good "reserves" of money, they can spend it now, in a week or in a month. I can agree with you about your idea to keep this balance but the economy will be frozen till the next salaries update and in that time the level will move up or down.
My personal opinion is that too much money is not good, in Italy we say that money "generate" money and you can see that checking how many arenas are expanding right now, the second problem is that is more easy to trade the players, third and last problem, the game is not so fun in fact you can buy all the best players cause you can pay easily the salaries. These factors could create more gap between the first divisions and the others, anyway is really interesting to check what will be ;)

Imho the prices are not decreasing the effect of FA is really marginal

I agree and was pointing out how all the chicken littles that declared the FA most would have a huge effect where over-reacting. The FA was a good practical, though low impact, move to help stem the extreme inflation we were seeing.

My personal opinion is that too much money is not good

I don't think huge fluctuations are good for the game, but I'm not sure about where the balance should be. In other words, I don't see a big difference between a market that has high average transfers compared to one that has low average transfers. Though I'm usually buying/selling at the same time so for me it mostly evens out.

Imho the prices are not decreasing the effect of FA is really marginal

I agree and was pointing out how all the chicken littles that declared the FA most would have a huge effect where over-reacting. The FA was a good practical, though low impact, move to help stem the extreme inflation we were seeing.

Sadly, with the public data available there is no way to tell the real impact of FAs. What can be said, is that the final effect of many dinamics (including FAs) does not *seems* to be very huge when it comes to stop inflation.

Last edited by Zero, the Magi. at 11/3/2009 10:14:45 PM

you can buy all the best players cause you can pay easily the salaries. These factors could create more gap between the first divisions and the others, anyway is really interesting to check what will be

I don't think it would create a bigger gap. I suspect, and hope, the opposite. If a team with great reserves and good income buy all the best players this would use some or all of the reserves while buying them and lessen the overall income, thus making the gap smaller over time. At first that team will gain an advantage ofcourse, but they should since they just used their reserves and lessened their income.
What is good about that is that it forces the other teams in the same league to invest their savings to stay competitive, and the result is more money out of the game in form of salaries. And also put bigger pressure on the higher divisions, keeping them under pressure to use their money instead of making major parachutes for when the times get tough. Training will also become increasingly hard if you want to stay in the top divisions, forcing teams to buy players that are allready trained to a high level from smaller division teams, also bringing more money from the top div teams.
Some of the transfer amounts goes to FA (out of the game), while some goes to other managers whom then saves or reinvests in new arena (cap on maximum attendants already introduced) or players (some % to FA and out of the game). Also there are the fee you pay when selling.

What I am trying to say is that this raise in the market prices was foreseen as a result of this seasons changes, with arena deconstructions bringing a lot more money into the game in a short period of time. The magnitude was perhaps more uncertain, and that is one of the reasons FA came back until further notice. Stabilising the market must take time, if to many factors to bring money out of the game to fast were introduced, this will also skew the balance and upset a lot of players (too many FA's would hurt those that have the best possibilities to -and are most dependent on training to sell (smaller division teams)).
There are so many factors to the balance of the game, and we have to remember that the main goal is to get a self-adjusting balance. Putting pressure on the top teams may be the key. I think we are moving in the right direction. But I think we all need a little patience.