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From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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Date: 1/9/2025 5:25:03 PM
Wagner College
II.2
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RULES:

1. A team must be 100% Home-Grown.
What is a Home-Grown Team? (326328.1)
2. A team must field a minimum of 5 players in a Matchup.


Maybe you have noted this somewhere already (or are in a different page with me and some others about it), but I didn't notice anything about mentioning that this league would be meant only for homegrown teams that compete with their main teams. You are technically correctly stating what homegrown team is, however, that's not what the original definition of homegrown teams by LOPO (who has established the list of homegrown teams, and whose definition I personally agree with).
So would you find it suitable to mention somewhere, that we are looking forward to creating main team only homegrown league here (or have I got it wrong that you're also looking forward to create that kind of league, and not a blended league)?

Personally I strongly think that if Utopian homegrown teams want to play homegrown league, an own league should be established for them, and "normal" BB main teams and Utopian teams should not be blended into same homegrown team league in any circumstance.

Having to dress minimum of 5 players per match is a good idea in my opinion. You can achieve that in 2 seasons if you're desperate to get playing quickly, so that's not too big of a demand. ;D

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324689.165 in reply to 324689.163
Date: 1/9/2025 6:07:26 PM
NakamichiDragons
II.3
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Second Team:
Little Computer People
Yes … who want s to be second 🤪

In terms of...? ;P
It seems your sense of humor was too sharp for my dull tiredness this time xD

Sorry, i replied to the wrong post.

The Santa Eufemia Ducks (24340) are pretty strong 👍 impressive team.

founded in S3 IV.5 (34234) - returned in S28 IV.7
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324689.166 in reply to 324689.165
Date: 1/9/2025 6:28:33 PM
Wagner College
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
215215

Sorry, i replied to the wrong post.

The Santa Eufemia Ducks (24340) are pretty strong 👍 impressive team.


No problem... I thought I must be having one of those Beavis&Butthead-days as I didn't quite get your point.. ;D

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324689.167 in reply to 324689.161
Date: 1/9/2025 8:25:41 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
345345
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
Yes … who want s to be second 🤪


LOl. You will have to go to the bottom of the tablet to find my team! We will be bringing up the tail-end! :-)

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

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324689.168 in reply to 324689.162
Date: 1/9/2025 8:44:47 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
345345
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

Some great points, Wagner.

As for the whole schedule being done before the season starts? I probably wasn't clear but yes, absolutely. I visualise the schedule being listed later this season with something denoting the team within each matchup whose responsibility it is to 'challenge' the other team via the PickUP (PU) method.

I see that you have asked demars about whether it is easy enough to organise or randomise the matchups. Great.

I'm thinking that we could do the following:

1. Lock in 14 teams.
2. Have 1 division based on Team salaries for the first season. I know it's not perfect but it's probably accurate enough to begin with. We can change for 2nd season.
3. Start confirming those 14 teams - make sure they are still on board - have 100% HG rosters - will be ready to play at the start of Season 68 - get total team salaries (can be adjusted this season as necessary)
4. (CRUCIAL) We ask them to predict what their Team Salary total (Buzzer Manager is helpful here) will be by the start of Season 68. This will be difficult, there will by inconsistencies, but if we don't start somewhere, nothing will get done.
5. Using all of those predicted salaries we at least know what the league is going to look like whether we have rankings or not. (BTW, when I referred to rankings before, I meant the end rankings after LEague 1 was completed - which could be used to setup League 2)


We are going to have a lot of little problems along the way. However, until we lock in the number of teams for the first League, we can't really move forward.\

I suggest we start with 14 teams and that we conduct the first season's League ("The League" similar to how BB does its leagues. I think managers will find this easier and friendly to begin with.

So, 14 teams / 1 Division.

My reasoning:

If we begin Season 68 with 14 teams, they can each play each other over the first 13 weeks. We then have single game Semi-Finals for the top 4 teams. Then a single Grand Final for the final 2 teams. This will bring us to 15 weeks and the end of the regular season.

It would be during those last few weeks (The finals - 2 weeks) that we would lock up the League 2 participants and new schedule so that we can begin in League 2 in Season 69.

Thoughts? Problems?


Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ
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324689.169 in reply to 324689.168
Date: 1/9/2025 8:46:19 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
345345
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

@ Wagner.

Regaridng strict penalties...

I am 100% in aggreeance. We do not want teams starting or playing in the league who do not stay HG for the entire competition. It would ruin what we are trying to create.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

To: MrJ
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324689.170 in reply to 324689.168
Date: 1/9/2025 8:55:33 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
345345
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
To be a little clearer:

1 Division with 14 teams

All 14 teams play each other (13 weeks)

Semifinals played between top 4 teams (1v4) (2v3) Winners go to final. (1 week)

Final (1 week) Winner of two semifinals play each other. (1 week)

15 weeks total.

WE ALREADY HAVE 14:

Eliocroca CB (141176) Manager: LOPO confirmed
Wagner College (172501) Manager: Wagner confirmed
Les Gueux du Marais (86508) Manager: Coach Faz
Elan Demars (87312) Manager: demars confirmed
NakamichiDragons (34515) Manager: LA-flaterik123
Holy City Hoopers (23767) Manager: Gccsteel
Buckner Bandits (23579) Manager: T-Lit
Madrid Chotis (76877) Manager: Jotadoce
WiMaOlca (35977) Manager: WiMaOl
Rajdersi (237760) Manager: Paul George
Santa Eufemia Ducks (24340) Manager: GM-Enzo
Swan River Serpents (197075) Manager: MrJ confirmed
Lielupes Melnas Sirdis (146915) Manager: Moneta ???
Suuret Muinaiset (172657) Manager: cthulhu

Last edited by MrJ at 1/9/2025 9:21:54 PM

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

To: MrJ
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324689.171 in reply to 324689.170
Date: 1/9/2025 8:58:14 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
345345
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

As for what day the PickUp (PU) games should be played...

While I said Monday would be ideal, I think a range (between Monday and Wednesday) might be better, giving managers more time to ensure they get their game played. Life happens sometimes. Having a range would be fairer.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

To: MrJ
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324689.172 in reply to 324689.171
Date: 1/9/2025 9:05:19 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
345345
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

Regarding the strictness of penalties imposed...

I strongly agree that any team that breaks their HG team and plays a non-HG player should receive a strict punishment as this League is 100% about being and playing HG.

With that said, while 99.99% of managers would not be affected by strict penalties regarding this, newer HG teams might make a mistake at some point. That is why I presented the consequences I did...for them.

However, we also want everybody competing in this League to be very clear that if you are not HomeGrown go home! (Maybe this should be my new forum signature! lol).

Seriously though, the one compromise we can't really make is teams breaking this golden rule.


Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

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324689.173 in reply to 324689.164
Date: 1/9/2025 9:12:43 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
345345
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

RULES:

1. A team must be 100% Home-Grown.
What is a Home-Grown Team? (326328.1)
2. A team must field a minimum of 5 players in a Matchup.


Maybe you have noted this somewhere already (or are in a different page with me and some others about it), but I didn't notice anything about mentioning that this league would be meant only for homegrown teams that compete with their main teams. You are technically correctly stating what homegrown team is, however, that's not what the original definition of homegrown teams by LOPO (who has established the list of homegrown teams, and whose definition I personally agree with).
So would you find it suitable to mention somewhere, that we are looking forward to creating main team only homegrown league here (or have I got it wrong that you're also looking forward to create that kind of league, and not a blended league)?

Personally I strongly think that if Utopian homegrown teams want to play homegrown league, an own league should be established for them, and "normal" BB main teams and Utopian teams should not be blended into same homegrown team league in any circumstance.

Having to dress minimum of 5 players per match is a good idea in my opinion. You can achieve that in 2 seasons if you're desperate to get playing quickly, so that's not too big of a demand. ;D



You are correct, Wagner!

Even though you and I have disagreed in the past (few months ago) about the Utopian teams being included...I strongly agree now that the Main Teams should only be included in our League.

The page I created explaining HomeGrown is just that. Information for people on what HG means.

For our League, however, we will not be accepting Utopian teams. :-)

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ
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324689.174 in reply to 324689.173
Date: 1/9/2025 9:22:37 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
345345
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
To be a little clearer:

1 Division with 14 teams

All 14 teams play each other (13 weeks)

Semifinals played between top 4 teams (1v4) (2v3) Winners go to final. (1 week)

Final (1 week) Winner of two semifinals play each other. (1 week)

15 weeks total.

WE ALREADY HAVE 14:

Eliocroca CB (141176) Manager: LOPO confirmed
Wagner College (172501) Manager: Wagner confirmed
Les Gueux du Marais (86508) Manager: Coach Faz
Elan Demars (87312) Manager: demars confirmed
NakamichiDragons (34515) Manager: LA-flaterik123
Holy City Hoopers (23767) Manager: Gccsteel
Buckner Bandits (23579) Manager: T-Lit
Madrid Chotis (76877) Manager: Jotadoce
WiMaOlca (35977) Manager: WiMaOl
Rajdersi (237760) Manager: Paul George
Santa Eufemia Ducks (24340) Manager: GM-Enzo
Swan River Serpents (197075) Manager: MrJ confirmed
Lielupes Melnas Sirdis (146915) Manager: Moneta ???
Suuret Muinaiset (172657) Manager: cthulhu

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
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