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Welcome to you Paul George as well, it seems you already have (and in the future increasingly so) very competitive team for the homegrown League!

Yes … who want s to be second 🤪

In the interest of keeping things moving along, I have tentatively begun to flesh-out possible Information, Rules and Penalties for our league. Please read below and provide your thoughts, ideas and/or comments.

Excellent initiative - all of us are thankful of you contribution, which will help us to discuss and decide things easier.

INFORMATION:
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For example, the great thing about PU games is they can be scheduled at any time. However, given that the teams participating in this league come from different countries, there may be time differences for Game Shape updates each week. Therefore, a game between two teams should take this into consideration before playing one another.

Each scheduled matchup should be played as early in the week as possible. This will allow enough time for all the results to be passed on and updated for all to see.

Even though in my earlier post I was against playing on Mondays (please do not read why that was my opinion ;P), you certainly have a solid reasoning and strong points here, and as there's bit of work in updating league tables and such, it's better to give this process enough time so that people who will actually do it have enough time to follow it through (as usually something will come up in "real life" that can interfere with our all important hobby;).

In terms of when matches are being played, unless we stick with the plan (play as early) I think it might be good to at least choose a window when we play our weekly game, so that teams couldn't decide to wait until next player shape update to have a BBHG pickup game, if their player shape is lousy that week. And nobody forces us to think that playing week must be from Monday to Sunday (BBs' weeks are not Mon-Sun either like you know!), but it'd be better to arrange it so that the playing window doesn't extend over Fridays' game shape (and training) updates.

It may be better if both teams bbmail their results to the organiser rather than post in the forum. In this way, any teams who were wishing to watch a match already completed, don't accidentally see the results before they have an opportunity to watch it.
At the completion of each matchups, BOTH teams are to pass on the results. This will ensure that at the very least (if only one team remembers to do it) that the results are forwarded, or (if both do it) then confirmation that the results are accurate eventuate.

That's well thought out. For the sake of openness, I might consider it a good idea for organizer to post all weeks game links to a forum at the end of the week though, with (or in a different message with) an updated league table, as game box scores aren't openly available otherwise.

It may prove beneficial to have a set day of the week every week when the PU games will take place. This will remove the possibility of a team issuing a challenge which doesn't provide their opponent enough time to fairly set a lineup. A Monday might be the best day given no games of any kind are scheduled by BB at this time?

IF we consider a week from Monday to Sunday (unlike BB does), then I guess Monday wouldn't be bad as it's kind of an early option and doesn't include any games. On Friday there aren't any other games either though, but then we'd might need to reconsider another definition for a week than Mon-Fri. (Having another match at the same day, because as we know BB players can play 2 matches simultaneously, but I know what you mean and agree with it that if we set a fixed game day it'd be better if there aren't other games regularly scheduled for that day).

Each week, one of the two teams competing in a matchup will have some kind of visual note that means it is their responsibility to issue the PU challenge.

If we do this week by week, good idea. But can't we organize all of season matches before beginning, wouldn't that be best?

Yes … who want s to be second 🤪

In terms of...? ;P
It seems your sense of humor was too sharp for my dull tiredness this time xD

RULES:

1. A team must be 100% Home-Grown.
What is a Home-Grown Team? (326328.1)
2. A team must field a minimum of 5 players in a Matchup.

Maybe you have noted this somewhere already (or are in a different page with me and some others about it), but I didn't notice anything about mentioning that this league would be meant only for homegrown teams that compete with their main teams. You are technically correctly stating what homegrown team is, however, that's not what the original definition of homegrown teams by LOPO (who has established the list of homegrown teams, and whose definition I personally agree with).
So would you find it suitable to mention somewhere, that we are looking forward to creating main team only homegrown league here (or have I got it wrong that you're also looking forward to create that kind of league, and not a blended league)?

Personally I strongly think that if Utopian homegrown teams want to play homegrown league, an own league should be established for them, and "normal" BB main teams and Utopian teams should not be blended into same homegrown team league in any circumstance.

Having to dress minimum of 5 players per match is a good idea in my opinion. You can achieve that in 2 seasons if you're desperate to get playing quickly, so that's not too big of a demand. ;D

Yes … who want s to be second 🤪

In terms of...? ;P
It seems your sense of humor was too sharp for my dull tiredness this time xD

Sorry, i replied to the wrong post.

The Santa Eufemia Ducks (24340) are pretty strong 👍 impressive team.

Sorry, i replied to the wrong post.

The Santa Eufemia Ducks (24340) are pretty strong 👍 impressive team.

No problem... I thought I must be having one of those Beavis&Butthead-days as I didn't quite get your point.. ;D

Yes … who want s to be second 🤪

LOl. You will have to go to the bottom of the tablet to find my team! We will be bringing up the tail-end! :-)

Some great points, Wagner.

As for the whole schedule being done before the season starts? I probably wasn't clear but yes, absolutely. I visualise the schedule being listed later this season with something denoting the team within each matchup whose responsibility it is to 'challenge' the other team via the PickUP (PU) method.

I see that you have asked demars about whether it is easy enough to organise or randomise the matchups. Great.

I'm thinking that we could do the following:

1. Lock in 14 teams.
2. Have 1 division based on Team salaries for the first season. I know it's not perfect but it's probably accurate enough to begin with. We can change for 2nd season.
3. Start confirming those 14 teams - make sure they are still on board - have 100% HG rosters - will be ready to play at the start of Season 68 - get total team salaries (can be adjusted this season as necessary)
4. (CRUCIAL) We ask them to predict what their Team Salary total (Buzzer Manager is helpful here) will be by the start of Season 68. This will be difficult, there will by inconsistencies, but if we don't start somewhere, nothing will get done.
5. Using all of those predicted salaries we at least know what the league is going to look like whether we have rankings or not. (BTW, when I referred to rankings before, I meant the end rankings after LEague 1 was completed - which could be used to setup League 2)


We are going to have a lot of little problems along the way. However, until we lock in the number of teams for the first League, we can't really move forward.\

I suggest we start with 14 teams and that we conduct the first season's League ("The League" similar to how BB does its leagues. I think managers will find this easier and friendly to begin with.

So, 14 teams / 1 Division.

My reasoning:

If we begin Season 68 with 14 teams, they can each play each other over the first 13 weeks. We then have single game Semi-Finals for the top 4 teams. Then a single Grand Final for the final 2 teams. This will bring us to 15 weeks and the end of the regular season.

It would be during those last few weeks (The finals - 2 weeks) that we would lock up the League 2 participants and new schedule so that we can begin in League 2 in Season 69.

Thoughts? Problems?

@ Wagner.

Regaridng strict penalties...

I am 100% in aggreeance. We do not want teams starting or playing in the league who do not stay HG for the entire competition. It would ruin what we are trying to create.

To be a little clearer:

1 Division with 14 teams

All 14 teams play each other (13 weeks)

Semifinals played between top 4 teams (1v4) (2v3) Winners go to final. (1 week)

Final (1 week) Winner of two semifinals play each other. (1 week)

15 weeks total.

WE ALREADY HAVE 14:

Eliocroca CB (141176) Manager: LOPO confirmed
Wagner College (172501) Manager: Wagner confirmed
Les Gueux du Marais (86508) Manager: Coach Faz
Elan Demars (87312) Manager: demars confirmed
NakamichiDragons (34515) Manager: LA-flaterik123
Holy City Hoopers (23767) Manager: Gccsteel
Buckner Bandits (23579) Manager: T-Lit
Madrid Chotis (76877) Manager: Jotadoce
WiMaOlca (35977) Manager: WiMaOl
Rajdersi (237760) Manager: Paul George
Santa Eufemia Ducks (24340) Manager: GM-Enzo
Swan River Serpents (197075) Manager: MrJ confirmed
Lielupes Melnas Sirdis (146915) Manager: Moneta ???
Suuret Muinaiset (172657) Manager: cthulhu

Last edited by MrJ at 1/9/2025 9:21:54 PM