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294722.17 in reply to 294722.16
Date: 7/18/2018 6:50:29 AM
CEI TOLEDO
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An international player of China with 30 yo and 132 SOS was sold by 2,3M hahahahahaha

I didn't lose any money but the game is break. BBMarin should do something to fix

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294722.19 in reply to 294722.18
Date: 7/18/2018 7:05:57 AM
CEI TOLEDO
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I think 4-4.5M

Almost 2M lower ...

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294722.20 in reply to 294722.15
Date: 7/18/2018 7:13:11 AM
Durham Wasps
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when bugs affect transfer prices we do not interfere as the risk for selling low puts the responsibility to the sellers. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.


hahahahahah

This is a shit

Agree completely. To say the responsibility is on the sellers is a complete reversal of the truth. The responsibility is on the one who made the mistake. As soon as the mistake was made transfers should have been suspended. Marin's apology is wasted, as he's clearly not sorry, or he wouldn't have transferred responsibility. As for his thank you, that's wasted too.

Complete farce.

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294722.22 in reply to 294722.21
Date: 7/18/2018 7:49:04 AM
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it it was also quite unprecedented and not likely to recur. Marin did apologize and certainly in the future his procedure will change.
It's not unprecedented. Marin has a long track record of getting things wrong and then being a prick about it on forums, despite people explaining to him in elementary terms.

This is just who he is as a person.


As a buyer, when you bid lower than you are ultimately willing to pay, you’re accepting a similar risk, with the hopes for reward that you end up getting a lower price.
Yes yes I'm sure you charitably paid $30 for one of those plastic burgers you call big mac before, just because you think it's their real value.

You may as well say you're against free market.


And this doesn’t even go into the logistics or trying to reset things, which has a slew of consequences).
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There would be no consequences. As they can fine the buyers and reward the sellers, they can also refund the buyer and invalidate the transfer.

This is not an accident, this was simply another logical result of a very well known and established fact: Marin is incompetent and arrogant. He removed 6 million, maybe more, from every team in the game, this is not something breaking down which is beyond their control, it is the consequence of a deliberate action he took to cover up other blunders. Making things worse by trying to fix mistakes made previously is sadly very common with Marin.

We want accountability: you make a mistake you pay. And in this case the price to pay is to fix the transfers or bugger off for good, letting a normal person, someone competent, run the game.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 7/18/2018 9:15:07 AM

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294722.23 in reply to 294722.21
Date: 7/18/2018 7:52:55 AM
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You and Marin should both read the definition of "auction" and try to find the differences beween an auction and a normal sale for a set price. Marins reply is totally unacceptable for auction-type sales and every court in the world would hold the owner of the auction house accountable, which in this case is Marin, should something similar happen for real.

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294722.25 in reply to 294722.24
Date: 7/18/2018 9:00:57 AM
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Sellers may have used money earned in other, later transactions, not directly affected by the bug
Such a hypocrite...first you tell people very clearly they should not to worry about what could have happened to the sales, now you say they can't reverse transactions (which would be easy to do) because we need to worry about what could have happened to the buyers? The only difference between you and people who complained here above is that you want to protect the people who benefited from Marin's 'mistake' and not the people who have suffered because of it.

I see you're no stranger to double standards.

Pot and kettle, as the old saying goes.
I'm glad you share my opinion of Marin. Everybody should.

Oh, and I listen and understand when people explain things to me.


I disagree that the fix is easy and has no consequences.
If the sales price were fair, having the cash paid instead of a player would be the same. The problem is that when you screw the market front, back and sideways as Marin did, that is no longer the case and that's why people are so pissed off.

The fix is easy, if there are 300 players affected it would be the same as issuing 300 fines and writing a routine to move the players back. But yeah, seeing what Marin has done in the past, someone else should take care of this, otherwise you are going to end with other issues like negative sale values as in the past.


The sellers affected should be able to ask a GM to intervene if the sale happened during the time everyone got 60 million deducted. The GM will refund the money to the buyer and the player should be transferred back before the Friday update.

Bottom line: servers crashing is not the same as someone (Marin) reducing everyone's bank account and preventing people from bidding. Marin (and you), for reasons which elude us normal people, seem to think they are equivalent circumstances.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 7/18/2018 12:11:25 PM

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