BuzzerBeater Forums

BB England > NT Season 34

NT Season 34

Set priority
Show messages by
This Post:
11
277851.16 in reply to 277851.15
Date: 4/26/2016 5:15:43 PM
Durham Wasps
III.1
Overall Posts Rated:
16621662
Second Team:
Sunderland Boilermakers
i'm doing the best i can with a pretty dismal squad outside of Innes and Mac

I try to avoid commenting too much since I don't want to sound like ex England football managers who scream it was better when I was in charge, and I really hope that isn't going to be how I sound, but personally I'd never have said anything like that. I'm probably not the only slightly unhappy to have my player dismissed quite so harshly. Even though I myself have said its a sorry state for the NT when Fallon is a regular starter, I don't really feel like letting it pass without comment this time. He's not Connor Marshall, and nor would I ever pretend he was, he's not even Millar, but I'd like to think my years (real years) of effort with him resulted in better than dismal.

As I recall McDoughnut played fairly well for the NT under me. In fact I remember playing him ahead of MacAusland if I felt he suited the tactics better. I'm certain he's better than dismal too.

While I'm peed off I might as well go on. When I was tempted to buy McDonough recently one of the things I considered was whether I could afford his wages in those weeks where there's no scrimmage. And your liking for only picking 10 players when there's really no reason not to pick 12, especially when one of the fewer than 200 people in England are essentially doing the NT a favour by paying high wages.

Speaking of the fewer than 200 managers in England, I wonder how many of them even are aware of the results every week? They probably know more about the u21 results which do get mentioned on the forums.

This Post:
00
277851.17 in reply to 277851.16
Date: 4/26/2016 5:46:00 PM
Leeds City Ballers
EBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
258258
Second Team:
Feeney Lee BC
I've never had anyone mention the fact i choose 10 players before until now. Our starters have been trained to very high stamina so the bench players play 4-6 minutes most games, the other 2 players would most likely get DNP'd which ganders very little merch anyway. I struggle to see how a backup player's merch is really going to offset any of his salary, i hardly receive a substantial amount for Bevan who plays fairly regularly.

And besides, the dismal comment which may have been too strong a word was in regards to the rest of Europe. It doesn't mean i'm taking a pop at players because most of the guys on the squad have been trained well, but compared to Europe its just not that good a squad, most of the players in the squad are at the good to elite level but in terms of expecting trophies and MORE THAN 6-2 for the NT, you need elite calibre players from the top to the bottom of your rotation. I was a little heated from being told i've done pretty much a shit job when i don't really feel that is a justified comment at all

And i've posted results before, and i get the same pity responses from my friends who i know comment for my own sake. Where are the guys like Tata who are the first to complain when i take my own time to right reports? No where to be seen, rather not waste my time with those

Last edited by Mod-Zeus at 4/26/2016 5:47:35 PM

This Post:
00
277851.18 in reply to 277851.12
Date: 4/27/2016 6:10:17 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
387387
Really? It's looked to me that you've been mailing it in for a while now, which is why I changed my vote to disapprove early this season. Again, I don't want to say too much as I've had my go at the NT and I know how frustrating it can be when game shape isn't what you'd like but if slagging off your squad and this lot of results is the best you can do perhaps it's time you recognised someone else can bring more energy to the role (and no, I don't mean me).

From: Elmacca

This Post:
00
277851.19 in reply to 277851.14
Date: 4/27/2016 6:12:26 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
387387
I've been unimpressed for a while with roster choices, tactics, communication - pretty much everything. Zeus did a much better job when he started as NT manager but it's been a mediocre campaign this year.

This Post:
00
277851.20 in reply to 277851.17
Date: 4/27/2016 6:14:53 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
387387
I don't comment because I lost faith in your leadership a while ago - but I still follow the NT.

This Post:
11
277851.21 in reply to 277851.20
Date: 4/27/2016 10:00:38 AM
Tide of Fire
EBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
352352
Thanks for the compliment - Mac is fairly good comparable with the others in the team I think, however I do believe Innes to be perhaps one of the greatest players if not the greatest ever seen come out of this nation.

I do believe woody was speaking a few seasons ago about wanting a go at running our NT some day, he was always good at developing our U21, perhaps he would be a good choice at helping to redevelop the team if that is what is needed..? That is if woody was still interested of course. If not then some of us would step up, although for me I'm probably a few seasons off that, as I am not a fan of EBBL managers being NT managers at the same time, because even for the greatest managers it compromises neutrality in selection (especially for me with 2 NT players) and gives a slight advantage against other managers in the league.

This Post:
22
277851.22 in reply to 277851.21
Date: 4/27/2016 12:22:33 PM
Leeds City Ballers
EBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
258258
Second Team:
Feeney Lee BC
Then why wait 4 seasons and not say a single word? The NT is a community based addition to this game, i'm not the greatest manager on BB and i'd appreciate constructive critisicm from people if you feel like i've gone wrong....this is how we improve as a nation! But honestly if you believe with this squad anyone is winning more than 6 games this season, then you might want to look again. I came inches away from qualifying England for their first ever European KO rounds but i guess that means nothing. the squad isn't what it was and i mentioned that in my first post of the season. I've been working extremely hard behind the scenes developing the younger players and if you want to turn on me just because i'm not winning consolation tournaments in the developing years then sure go ahead, i'm not going to cry about it. But when things come up in real life that you have to focus on, a browser game takes a back seat for a while. I didn't have the time this season to spend hours each day on BB, scouting other teams which i feel like i did very well regardless and making reports that one or two people read and if thats the issue why not tell me so i can bring those things back? I've had exactly two people over the last two seasons mention the fact i don't report as often, hardly the incentive.

I still have the passion for this role and i'm not just going to roll over and give it up now, we still have a long way to go until realistically we can challenge but the new generation i've been working with is going to be great and i want the chance to nurture the team. I'm just not sure what more you're expecting of me at this time

This Post:
11
277851.23 in reply to 277851.22
Date: 4/27/2016 2:07:02 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
387387
Well what I get from that is you agree with me that this season has been short of your previous level but you still have the passion to turn it around and get back to your previous high level. Fair play - I hope you do if you win re-election.
incidentally I find the whole 'it's just a game' argument to be a bit weak - of course it's just a game but that's completely irrelevant to how well you're playing the game. It's like when someone says I'm a new dad and I'm.too busy to play anymore - well I can tell you all from experience that when you're staying up to do the night feed at 2am, you have shed loads of time to.yourself and something as trivial as BB is a welcome distraction from the endurance test that is newborn parenting!

This Post:
22
277851.24 in reply to 277851.23
Date: 4/27/2016 2:59:55 PM
Leeds City Ballers
EBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
258258
Second Team:
Feeney Lee BC
I have my bar set high just as every coach does, i want us to be a force in Europe some day and of course i expect every season that we'll have a shot at doing better than we eventually do. My posting has been non existant this season and i totally understand that people may be dissapointed by my lack of effort on that front. I just wish if people had issues with the way i've been doing the whole thing that they'd have told me, now i can take it on board with things such as 12 players and posting more, i didn't realise the 12 players was such an issue if i had i'd have rectified it ASAP but leaving me in the dark won't help anyone. I understand where you're coming from and all i ask of the community is their support.

I have things in my personal life that i'd rather not discuss on here that i'm working through, things that really damaged my motivation for things like BB but as i say i'm working on myself too and trying to better myself as a person. But i won't be stepping down from the NT spot and i take every comment on board as to how i can improve my coaching and general management of the team. If you have any issues i'd much rather the people tell me

This Post:
22
277851.25 in reply to 277851.24
Date: 4/27/2016 4:26:50 PM
Durham Wasps
III.1
Overall Posts Rated:
16621662
Second Team:
Sunderland Boilermakers
I think for most people, the best time to comment is at the end of the season, and even more so, the end of the second season. Just for the sake of not rocking the boat.

I have a lot of sympathy for you of course as I've been in the same position. My last season was especially difficult for me to take. The decline, that you're clearly not responsible for, started then. The future does look brighter now than it did then, you've done far more than I did away from the actual squad, though again it would be nice to know just how many players you think are likely to come through in the next few seasons.



This Post:
00
277851.26 in reply to 277851.25
Date: 4/27/2016 4:45:03 PM
Leeds City Ballers
EBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
258258
Second Team:
Feeney Lee BC
My PMs are always open for comments if you'd rather not air them publicly on the forums. This is why i posted on the suggestion forum about a second squad, it would be much easier to show the up and comers through there but if it is of interest and i get re-elected i'd be more than happy to start creating some sort of development depth chart so we can see the future devlop.

I take full responsibility for a pretty lack lustre campaign on communication etc and i want the change to redeem myself

Last edited by Mod-Zeus at 4/27/2016 4:45:47 PM

Advertisement