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125704.159 in reply to 125704.156
Date: 1/5/2010 8:20:12 AM
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You made many fouls, adding 20 more freetrows to your opponent that won by 9. He also got home court advantage, and his attack vs defense ratio is better than yours.

Just a few games say nothing. I can give you many examples of a team with a better offensive flow winning the game. It's just what you want to believe. If you are satisfied with 5 games showing the offensive flow is useless to believe it's useless, no problem. If you aren't satisfied with 5 games showing the offensive flow isn't useless, no problem as well. It's just the one you want to believe.

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Date: 1/5/2010 8:29:54 AM
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You made many fouls, adding 20 more freetrows to your opponent that won by 9. He also got home court advantage, and his attack vs defense ratio is better than yours.

Just a few games say nothing. I can give you many examples of a team with a better offensive flow winning the game. It's just what you want to believe. If you are satisfied with 5 games showing the offensive flow is useless to believe it's useless, no problem. If you aren't satisfied with 5 games showing the offensive flow isn't useless, no problem as well. It's just the one you want to believe.

No you aren't answering my questions. I don't find it unacceptable to lose this match, although I have better inside attack and offensive flow, and my OD was slightly worse. All I want to know is if all it does matter is the attack vs defence rating because I couldn't see any evidence that offensive flow made a difference. I am fine with it if it's true.

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Date: 1/5/2010 8:38:57 AM
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Now I have doubts about the value of offensive flow for outside tactics after this match. (18265697) It seems it doesn't really matter, at least in this match. Same no. shots that went in, same no. of assists, and same no. of turnover. What does it do?

The PP100 of the team with the lower offensive flow seems lower. This means they took worse shots overall. Whether a shot will go in or not is still a randomized outcome, so nothing is guaranteed.

I guess you ain't good at maths.
It's the other way around: 88,6 vs 86,4 average... and the difference is higher when considering only the 3 outside players (which are those determining the outside ratings), 84,4 vs 80.

One single game is surely not enough to draw conclusions, but to me the offensive flow seems to be less important for an outside focus than to play inside... and that's exactly the problem.

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To: 7ton
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125704.164 in reply to 125704.156
Date: 1/5/2010 10:47:58 AM
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Now I have doubts about the value of offensive flow for outside tactics after this match. (18265697)


With the risk to expose myself to ridicule here I would say that Princeton is not an outside tactic at all. From what I understand from the manual this tactic is slow and avoids long 2p shots. In my last PL-game with Princeton however the shot distribution was spread out very evenly, leading me to the conclusion that Princeton has no real focus at all.
I don't know if this is true, if not please correct me ;)

Cheers, Exos

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125704.167 in reply to 125704.166
Date: 1/5/2010 11:20:33 AM
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run and gun: 5 little basketball players shooting it up
princeton: 4 little basketball players searching for a shot
motion: 3 little basketball players showing off their skills
;-)

Very true. I can tell you that the PG of that match has inept JS, strong JR and passing. I deliberately played princeton to fit him in and I am quite pleased that it worked out that way.

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Date: 1/5/2010 12:52:11 PM
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ok so anyone here still think that outside tactics is not waaaaay stronger then inside tactics just look at my last game

(18104229)

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