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Thanks for the clarification.
5 skill balls for everyone ;)

Having a flood of draftees with better TSP will probably not increase the total number of trained players IMHO, just decrease the price for decent mid-potential players which is quite low already compared with trained players.

Well, I've seen too many teams being incapable of promoting again after they demote

And if you did read the forums in the past you will know that the people who used the term "yo-yo strategy" and complained about this were from the largest nation in BB...I'd imagine that the smaller the nation the easier this would be.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/15/2016 7:44:01 AM

What counts for managers is the salary increase in absolute numbers, not the percentage.
If a OD 20 IS 20 LI guard with 40k salary has a 10% salary increase that amounts to 4k.
An high TSP player like Julian Kröll had a salary hike of 24k due to the change.
Problem: he is no LI guard but a balanced SF you need for variable tactics including outside ones, the same teams that also need PA on bigs (for e.g. motion)

My point is: high TSP players are hit most by the change, LI guards still have a low salary.
You did not provide an example to show thats not true.

To the promotion change:
If 10 teams in a D1 are close to salary floor you have a decent chance to prevent demotion regardless of the change.
They will earn much more money than a D2 team so promotion is easier, particularly with the change as this cuts both ways (you might have overlooked that).

Directly speaking no, but indirectly yes.For example isn't different to get a player with 30+30 TSP and start training him and different to get one with 25+20 TSP? You are actually saving close to a season of training. Isn't that much?

Wait aren't you changing only the potential erasing the utterly worthless categories like announcer=level 0 (the only level 0 in the entire game)?

Edit: I just saw your reply to Robard. Ok so we're saying that lower potentials will have on average better skills than today and in general some of the lowest potential will be rarer. That's great news for lower level teams as they can cap lower potential players faster. I'm even happier that I voted for this option. Is it safe to assume this will have only a limited impact above the allstar potential level?

Maybe it is if the draft's change will create more trainable players.

tbh someone else also made the point that with an average roster with 12 players you only need (on average) 1 trainee per season. The problem is not that there are too few draftees, there are enough in number, the problem is that you can't fully train 12 players in 12 seasons, if they have decent to good potential. That is one of the reason why you don't find homegrown teams past certain levels (the other being that you can only create 3 similar players every time you train).

Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/15/2016 8:14:07 AM

I just found about this, so forgive me for not reading 162 posts.

My opinion about new demoting system: six team... way too much. I understand why, I agree, there should be more competitiveness, but this system would punish mostly teams that were promated one season ago.

Maybe instead demoting six teams or four (current system), we could choose middle ground.
- 8th demoted directly (2 total)

- 5th would play vs 7th team from opposite conference
- 6th vs 6th from opposite conference
- 7th vs 5th from opposite conference (3 total)

This way weaker conference would lose more teams and stronger teams would have more chance to survive in stronger league. Afterall, end game plan is to increase competitiveness, so why demote 7th team from stronger conference directly?

Last edited by nebi at 12/15/2016 9:23:59 AM

100% agree.

Yes, and i still fail to see with what logic the draft change will create more trained players when 55 TSP PAS are sold for peanuts already.