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If all the teams get the same extra revenue, then I don't see how it could do nothing but decrease the gap between each team.

The idea of the +10% could be a good first step but I'm not sure it would be enough.

If the game isn't close or if the starters have a bit less stamina, then subs play even more.
If you have a sub as good as two starters and huge stamina, then I guess the best solution would be a BLU on these two positions so that minutes are quite equally shared. But it wouldn't solve the problem on the 5 positions

The current minutes' repartition seems acceptable though. Well at least it saves us from exhaustion while there are subs that are identified.

Last edited by slamdunk9 at 5/19/2022 7:52:25 AM

I might be a little bit bias since I have one very high salary player in my team. But if we think about real life sports the top players can bring so much merch income that it completely covers their salary and more. For example, Messi and Ronaldo in football, their salaries are easily covered and more for the teams by the shirt sales.

I'm not saying BB should have the salary of the best player 100% compensated but I think at least 50% in total would be realistic while not being game breaking. With homegrown boost, NT boost, top scorer lists etc. my personal guess is that around 30-40% of the salary is now covered. Bump that up by 20% or more and we will have serious competition of these top players.

The bigger the benefit, the more competition it would create for these top salary players. I don't think this would cause more gap between the top and lower rank teams since anyone can train one high salary player for themselves or even for sale. Since the prices would go up, it would be easier to go from rags to riches as a new manager just by training one or two NT caliber players. And the top teams would have to spend more money to buy the top salary players since their price would go up.

In a 7-men rotation, backups are only playing around 8' per position (around 9' if the starters' staminas are lower), which means 40' on average for each starter. It's still not worth having really good subs if the 3-position sub will only play 22-24' and the 2-position sub 16-18' on average.

I'd argue that it might be. If the sub and the starter have similar quality, that means that the sub would perform better than the starters (due to stamina skill decay) in those 22-24/16-18 mins he is on the court. There's always the risk of injury/foul-out that those subs cover as well.

Of course, it will be even better if further adjustments are made, so that the subs could spend a little more time in play, say 28-32 for three positions and 20-24 for two positions. That would bring the starters' minutes to ~37-38 which would be ideal.

I still believe the best way to counter short rosters is via GS, of course.

In a 7-men rotation, backups are only playing around 8' per position (around 9' if the starters' staminas are lower), which means 40' on average for each starter. It's still not worth having really good subs if the 3-position sub will only play 22-24' and the 2-position sub 16-18' on average.

I'd argue that it might be. If the sub and the starter have similar quality, that means that the sub would perform better than the starters (due to stamina skill decay) in those 22-24/16-18 mins he is on the court. There's always the risk of injury/foul-out that those subs cover as well.

Of course, it will be even better if further adjustments are made, so that the subs could spend a little more time in play, say 28-32 for three positions and 20-24 for two positions. That would bring the starters' minutes to ~37-38 which would be ideal.

I still believe the best way to counter short rosters is via GS, of course.

YES and YES to the two things in black!

Ι think 10% is enough. 50% of his salary is way to high. I would say 20% should be the higher extra merchandise income you can get.

About the minutes in B3 or BBM i think the changes are good. Not every team has all his players with 9-10 stamina. So in a 7 man roster a sub on 3 positions with 25 min on average and a sub on 2 positions with 18 sounds good to me, or at least way better than before.

Last edited by Aimar 21 at 5/19/2022 8:43:21 AM

I don't know why homegrown players have to make the most profit.
In real life the biggest profits are made by the biggest stars no matter where they are from, and mostly those stars don’t play in their cities and countries.

Training will be in trouble if this game continue like this for sure... I wil finish training of current players in the next 3-4 seasons and then I will never train again(I am sure many guys think so even though it is a nice feeling to watch a player progress) because it is so boring, last too long, it is very expensive and I was not competitive for long time (and still I am not in the way I want to be) because these players were not good enough when they were younger, and I was spending too much on the staff and infrastructure and still I do.

I have all the data on every dollar I have given to the trainees and trainers from the day one of their training till today in these almost 8 and half seasons and it is much easier not to train players.... Only on trainers, youth trainer and infrastructure I gave over 15 milion in this 8 seasons(In the end I will return 1 milion by selling infrastructure) and there I did not count the salaries of those players and the price of their transfers.
Infrastructure 5,36 milion, trainers 9,1 m, youth trainer 0,95 m..... These are all unnecessary expenses when you do not train players...
It is much easier just to buy players.

Yes, but only when the players you wanna buy exist. The thing is that most top world teams have players that cannot be found in the market because they are unique.

If you wanna train players for profit, forget about extras and spend the minimum to make them increase their price. If you wanna create something that nobody else has, spend whatever you think you need to spend to build that player and every single dollar will be worth it.

For example, I would not even sell Guillén or Cull (1st team) for 10m each because there are no players like them in order to do what I want to do. Obviously, it would have made no sense for me to pay what I paid for them in order to build 2 standard inside players.


Last edited by Darkonako at 5/19/2022 11:09:15 AM