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210311.15 in reply to 210311.13
Date: 2/15/2012 5:13:37 AM
Kitakyushu
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OK..Lets do the experiment on March 20th.....
I will start P.Pablo from my team at C.....73K salary and you start your 102K C....and let's see who balls..
Your guy will have the salary advantage and experience advantage...we play them both at C and we both play LI..
And then we will see which of us is dealing in the real world or who's mind is in dream land.

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210311.17 in reply to 210311.16
Date: 2/15/2012 7:13:08 PM
Kitakyushu
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Good luck Wolph.....Let's smack up some fools..

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210311.18 in reply to 210311.17
Date: 2/15/2012 10:12:32 PM
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Nippon U21 did VERY well on their schedule - both games are winnable, if the first one's a bit difficult. Cymru got reamed. Russia 2nd game.

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210311.19 in reply to 210311.14
Date: 2/17/2012 3:45:54 PM
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You know Tuesdays game wasn't a real test of my team. I played Takayoshi Kawagichi my 20yo trainee 48+ at PG and he was battling against your beast. I had also just sold my SF so had to play a SG at SF.

Takayoshi Kawagichi (21305663)
Point Guard
Weekly salary: $ 13 084

Mathias Budiarso (8195984)
Point Guard
Owner: Fire Country Trail Blazers
Weekly salary: $ 173 912

Budiarso played 45 minutes against him and dominated that matchup. Being slaughtered in the PG position does have an effect on the play of your big men. So does being away. So does probably having less enthusiasm.

And don't forget it is not my two 100k guys against 34k Krejci alone, he did have just a little help from Marvin Pahila Weekly salary: $ 111 948.

Even worse look at the disparity in the other support.
PG Takayoshi Kawagichi 13k vs Mathias Budiarso 174k
SG Noritada Konoe 26k vs Alpár Göncz 80k
SF Daisaku Kawaida 29k vs Samuel Falcón 30k

So on every play when there is a switch, a double team or help defence you have a massive advantage. You moved the ball much better giving your guys better opportunities and I don't know if it works this way in BB but in real life having such superior guards will open the middle up a lot more for your men.

So considering the poor support, away game etc I think my big guys did well with the exception of Sonada's horrible rebounding. They were my top two scorers, hit 19/32 combined and had more blocks than your whole team. Team vs team the best team won, easily, but I was actually happy with how they played vs what is probably now one of the top 3-4 rosters in the whole JBBL.

Last edited by Lord Toranaga at 2/17/2012 3:46:51 PM

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210311.20 in reply to 210311.15
Date: 2/17/2012 4:07:58 PM
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OK..Lets do the experiment on March 20th.....


Thanks for the kind offer. However you are right that one of us does have to deal with the real world.

Kitakyushu maybe the best team in Nippon, can probably tie every game, with homecourt advantage.

Kyoto Shogun recently promoted, one of the bottom 3 teams {excluding bots} has to spend enthusiasm like he is in a Pachinko parlor to try and scrape out the occasional win, with a substandard roster in probably 4/5 positions {including C truth be told} and trying to single position train an 18 year old and a 20 year old.

PS: Shouldn't all of this been in the smack thread not here?

Your guy will have the salary advantage and experience advantage


Your guy will have HCA, enthusiasm and be surrounded by studs against my scrubs. Really a good test?

I will say looking at Pablo Peinado he is a stud and is doing very well this season.

Nippon JBBL
Ranks #5 in PTS
Ranks #5 in REB
Ranks #5 in PTS / game
Ranks #5 in REB / game
Ranks #2 in FG %
Ranks #2 in FG made
Ranks #8 in FG attempted
Ranks #3 in DR


I suspect he is not an "average" $73k salary player. The fact you paid almost $2,000,000 for him proves it. We both know that there are normal players and then those rare players who have skills way above their peers and will constantly out play guys with a much higher salary. While I really liked the fact that Kaname Kouzuki can pass and has OD, overall he is very average for his salary. Your team, with your income, your experience, your knowledge, your deep pockets, I am sure PP is far above average and so I will humbly concede without a challenge needed that PP would wipe the floor with KK.

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210311.21 in reply to 210311.20
Date: 2/18/2012 8:11:24 AM
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National Team Update

Beginning Roster Announced - (Over a pint of Heineken in the Amsterdam Airport on my return trip back to Japan.) After days of work completing my scouting, and analysis of our options I have come up with the following Roster for Season 19. For now we have 12 players and will look at adding more as the season goes along.

National Team Core Roster – We will start the year with 11 players who have been identified as the best options for our team. The team consists of 5 guards, 2 Swingman, and 4 Bigs. This is without consideration for Game Shape, but game day line-ups will build that in.

Guards
Takatoshi Tagawa 28 KK Arsenal Zagreb
Haruki Fujii 26 SAMANTH BASKET
Rikkio Eguchi 26 bebop Jazz
Hideki Ochi 27 BSC Bern West
Naoya Ueda 25 Swoosh


Swingman (both of these guys are up for sale now)
Tooro Oishi 28 Stunners
Yuhei Suenami 32 Flurioca


Bigs
Yusuke Furusawa 28 SLZH
Mitsuo Shibukji 23 Sapporro Fighters
Satashi Hayakawa 26 es-es
Hirofumi Sonoda 25 Kyoto Shogun



Develoment Team – In addition I am adding one player who is close and still has some room for development. I was hoping this list would be longer.
Masatomo Saiki 23 Mythical Man-Month


On Call – The following players are on-call for possibly being added to the team if we have problems with injuries or game shape. I already know I have a game shape issue with a swingman for the first game but there are no swingman in the list below.

Guards
Soichi Hara 28 KoriPullo-Pojat
Genki Kanagaki 28 kos_team

Bigs
Tsugumichi Kyubei 29 Baikinman
Kaname Kouzuki 32 Kyoto Shogun



I will start the work to contact each manager over the next week. I’ve also created a futures list of key players for development and will post on that later. Time to go catch my flight.

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210311.24 in reply to 210311.21
Date: 2/18/2012 5:06:49 PM
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Great work here, looks very well planned and organised. +1 from me too.

Some notes: I think you have too few players and Wolph too many but that is just my opinion. You get no merchandise sitting on the bench anyway but I can't see a reason to have only 11 real players when we can roster 12, especially when 1 is already in bad GS.

It is good to see that Kaname Kouzuki is also at least on the radar even if he will probably not make it and next season will be too old.

There are three current team players on the TL and I could easily afford to buy 2 of them giving me potentially 4 NT players. Would be bad for the NT though, what if I went insane or something and overplayed them as some do. But if I just wanted to collect NT players I could add Yuhei Suenami (4834320) or Takatoshi Tagawa (9632142) and depending on the final sale prices maybe both.

A pity I can't afford Tooro Oishi (11002133) he looks amazing.

Takatoshi Tagawa (9632142) looks great but as I am training PGs he is no use to me but hopefully someone local will pick him up.

But Yuhei Suenami (4834320) really makes me wonder.

I need a SF.
I love local players.
I am utterly obsessed with getting my guys on the NT.
He is already there and will give me a merchandising bonus.
Right now I have a <$30k PG playing SF.
I can afford to buy him easily.

So why don't I do it? (I still might)

Age is obviously the top factor for me and doesn't affect the NT so that is one big issue that is irrelevant. As Wolph said he has some great inside strengths but is way behind in his outside skills. Not good enough to play PF but will be horrible against outside based teams at SF. Passing is a problem, defence is a problem, driving is a problem. Wolph didn't like the JR but I think it would be ok for a SF, but I could be wrong. There is a lot of problems.

So if he isn't maybe good enough for a weak JBBL team how does he make the NT? One reason is probably a lack of SFs. If we plan to play LI/M2M each week against other teams that always do the same I guess he will be very good. I guess I am rambling but he just makes me think. I will bid on him, just not too much.

Last edited by Lord Toranaga at 2/18/2012 5:15:07 PM

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210311.25 in reply to 210311.24
Date: 2/18/2012 7:00:07 PM
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Some notes: I think you have too few players and Wolph too many but that is just my opinion. You get no merchandise sitting on the bench anyway but I can't see a reason to have only 11 real players when we can roster 12, especially when 1 is already in bad GS.

I'd prefer to have a short roster, and have the option of adding more - rather than having guys on the team I'm not certain about. I only have 13 on my Welsh U21 team...
I think early in the job it's a smart thing to do, if you're not seeing players you want.

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