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Would you guys consider doing a poll on which system is better? I suggest making a poll with a certain time limit and the result will be implemented.

EDIT: Another idea/improvement: if the second to last word is shorter than 4 letters, it will not be abbreviated, all other words before that are abbreviated. This would be kind of a compromise and maybe an option in the poll.

Last edited by BB-Marin at 1/9/2012 6:03:15 AM

How about Chinese and Japanese or any other people whose surnames are usually in the front of their names? One of my players' called KG during the game now, but he isn't so happy with his surname abbreviated. KG still sounds cool though...

Anything other than displaying the full last name is not a better system.

If we go for a compromise, the old system was actually easier and well thought for a majority of names.
A better compromise would be to let us choose how to abbreviate our player's names but I can't see this happening.

Look at Ashurri's last game, it's a good exemple, almost all the players have their name truncated.
I know it's a side problem and not quite important. Still the change is worse than the initial problem.

How do you look at your opponent's players if not by going through their roster ? Filter by first or last name and here we go, what's the difference ?

Look at the live of this game, it's full of exemples : (39839964)
How do you find : P. D. Carlo (De Carlo), A.H. b. Ismail (bin Ismail), K. G. Quiang (Guo Quiang)... How is it different than looking for a J. Carlos ?
What do you think of Pascal Le Potier, shortened to P. L. Potier ? You know how ridiculous it looks while in the old system it's was correctly displayed.

edit to add : in your team, I count 0 composed first names and 3 composed last names.

Last edited by Manouche at 1/9/2012 8:37:39 AM

Marin.
I have a suggestion to make:

1 - Example: Rui Pedro (names) da Cruz (surname)
Now appears as "R. P. d. Cruz" :(

2 - Example: Nuno (name) de Andrade (surname)
Now shows: "N. d. Andrade" :(
Before: "N. de Andrade" :)

Why not having it abreviated to: "R. Cruz" and "N. Andrade" - wich means cutting the last one of the names and showing only the last name that belong to player's surname.
Or, the same logic, but leaving the name's inicials with the last surname: "R.P. Cruz".

Like for example:Patrick Jones (names) Smith Jackson (surnames).
Result in match viewer: P. Jackson ou P.J. Jackson (I vote for this last one).

In the final boxscores would stay as in present.

Just an idea for discussion.
Regards to all.

So, no one likes my poll idea?

You still think it's better. But why ?

It won't make it easier to look for a player and it will be, in most cases, incorrect because, in most cases, you don't shorten last names.

Ideally, you'd want only first names to be shortened but apparently Marin can't do it. Or "customizable" names but we don't have it. Or displaying only the last names in the viewer but it might create the odd problem with 2 players with the same last name in a team.

Van can be shorten to v. but De or Le or Ben Abdel or bin or Guo can't.
There should be a contextual solution to make it perfect but I understand it is difficult.
In Spain, you don't cut one of the last names. For practical reasons, you can possibly skip them.
J. Manuel or even José M. is acceptable I think in the lack of a better solution while there is no way you can accept Ben Abdel Aziz to be reduced to B.A. Aziz.

All right, it doesn't matter, I will deal with it ;)

Everyone respects other opinions here, this is the least expected in a civil discussion. Was there any doubt about it at some point ? :)

I know what van means. It's a different case, you can shorten to v. in dutch, search Robin v. Persie. It's a correct spelling of the name. It's different from De, Ben etc...
The perfect solution should know all these subtleties. It's difficult because BB deals with names from all around the world.

Aside from opinions, I still don't understand why you factually think it's better. You want to see the surname fully when possible ? My C. Ben Abdel Aziz has become C. B.A. Aziz, you see less of the name. That's what I am trying to say, I understand what bothers you but the chosen solution corrects it in some cases and creates it in others. Only now, on top of it, it cuts full names.

For the record, I have two first names and two last names, one of my last names is composed so that makes 5 words. I don't fit in the viewer :'(
I think the jury can take me as an expert on the matter :p